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ChronoGrl 10-18-2008 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by The_Return (Post 744096)
One word: Leone.

Start with the Man With No Name trilogy: Fistful of Dollars, For a Few Dollars More, and - of course - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly. Then go for Once Upon a Time in the West.

Not a spaghetti western, but you should realy check out High Plains Drifter, too - I'm sure its been discussed in this thread already (I haven't read the whole thing), but it's basically a western shot with the sensibilities of a horror movie. One of my all-time favourites.

From there...wow, there's so much ground to cover.

Awesome - Thanks! :)

Festered 10-18-2008 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by ChronoGrl (Post 744343)
Awesome - Thanks! :)

Since you enjoy Japanese horror, I'd recommend you start with Sergio Corbucci. Mainly Django and The Great Silence. His films have a much brisker pace and blood content and he is regarded almost on a par with Leone. Leone's films are epic, both in tone and especially length, so it would probably be better if you worked up to them. Plan on 3 or more hours each. You will enjoy Ennio Morricone's great operatic music, too.

The_Return 10-18-2008 11:59 AM

I've only seen one of Corbucci's flicks - Django - and it left me kind of cold. I enjoyed it and I'll certainly watch it again someday, but it's reputation had me expecting more from it.

Maybe that's just me though...you should still check it out Chrono. Even though I was a little let down, it's still a genre classic to be sure.

crazy raplh 10-18-2008 03:56 PM

Grims prarie tales and the cowboy guy in house 2 i like

Festered 10-19-2008 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by The_Return (Post 744371)
I've only seen one of Corbucci's flicks - Django - and it left me kind of cold. I enjoyed it and I'll certainly watch it again someday, but it's reputation had me expecting more from it.

Maybe that's just me though...you should still check it out Chrono. Even though I was a little let down, it's still a genre classic to be sure.

Probably why she should see Corbucci first. All other Spaghettis feel like a letdown after Leone.

Another good western/horror you should check out is Curse of the Undead. I always liked Michael Pate in this.... and the cross genre really works here. Check out this page for info-

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgu...icial%26sa%3DN


L. Q. Jones' A Boy and His Dog, although not a western by the strictest sense, does contain elements of the genre and is somewhat of a forerunner to the Mad Max series. It's a great cult Sci-Fi horror with a nice twist ending I know Chrono will appreciate.

monster123 10-19-2008 11:25 AM

This may of already been said but Dead Birds is kinda western.

ChronoGrl 10-19-2008 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by monster123 (Post 744874)
This may of already been said but Dead Birds is kinda western.

Not... Really... But it was a delightful little horror/ghost movie. The period aspect was a little silly and unnecessary.

monster123 10-19-2008 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by ChronoGrl (Post 744933)
Not... Really... But it was a delightful little horror/ghost movie. The period aspect was a little silly and unnecessary.

Yea i wasnt sure if i was right on the western thing. I agree with what you said though.

ChronoGrl 10-19-2008 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Festered (Post 744735)
L. Q. Jones' A Boy and His Dog, although not a western by the strictest sense, does contain elements of the genre and is somewhat of a forerunner to the Mad Max series. It's a great cult Sci-Fi horror with a nice twist ending I know Chrono will appreciate.

You know me well. It's a fantastic film and a good adaptation of the original Harlen Ellison short story.

Actually - it's been YEARS since I've seen A Boy and His Dog... I should Netflix it.

neverending 10-19-2008 03:51 PM

I heard Ellison read a prequel he wrote to A Boy and His Dog at a sci fi convention. Great story. He got a great ovation after the story. He's a very dynamic speaker in addition to being a great writer.

The Mothman 10-19-2008 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by The_Return (Post 744096)
Not a spaghetti western, but you should realy check out High Plains Drifter, too - I'm sure its been discussed in this thread already (I haven't read the whole thing), but it's basically a western shot with the sensibilities of a horror movie. One of my all-time favourites.

Actually one of the few eastwood westerns I havnt seen yet, ive seen some clips however and it looks freakin awesome. its on the top of my list of movies to buy.

ChronoGrl 10-20-2008 07:05 AM

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Originally Posted by neverending (Post 745007)
I heard Ellison read a prequel he wrote to A Boy and His Dog at a sci fi convention. Great story. He got a great ovation after the story. He's a very dynamic speaker in addition to being a great writer.

That must have been amazing to hear...

A few years back he was scheduled for an interview on NPR. Prior to the interview he asked the interviewers (for the life of me I can't remember who was conducting the interview... And I'm too lazy to use my Google skills to figure it out) NOT to call him a science fiction author.

The interview started. The interviewer asked his first question, something to the affect of, "I KNOW that you asked us specifically not to call you a science fiction write, BUT..."

And then Ellison got pissed and walked out. It was live... And... uncomfortable...

neverending 10-20-2008 08:01 AM

That's a perfect Ellison story. All through the convention, whenever he was speaking he would beg people NOT to write him fan mail because it took time away from his writing.

Bub the Zombie 10-20-2008 08:40 AM

For all it's cheesiness worth, I thought Tremors was a great take on this particular sub-genre. The sequels were entertaining at best, but with the catchy background score and the cheesy interactions between Kevin Bacon and Fred Ward made this one movie very memorable.

Another notable one is of course QT's From Dusk Till Dawn. The characters may not be typical western-ish, but the setting and the atmosphere was very stereo-typical of a western. Not sure about the sequels because I haven't yet bothered to check them out, specially after hearing a lot of bad stuff about number 2 - Texas Blood Money.

Festered 10-20-2008 06:14 PM

Interesting stuff about Ellison guys. I can understand him getting upset, because sci-fi lit is often regarded by mainstream critics as cellar dweller pulp.

Near Dark has a bit of a western feel to it. Nice little vamp flick.

The_Return 10-20-2008 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by The Mothman (Post 745146)
Actually one of the few eastwood westerns I havnt seen yet, ive seen some clips however and it looks freakin awesome. its on the top of my list of movies to buy.

Should just get this set:

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/...zL._SS500_.jpg
http://www.amazon.com/Eastwood-Weste.../dp/B000N3SSBW

Dirt cheap, plus you get a couple other cool Eastwood flicks. High Plains Drifter is easily the best of the bunch, but the other two have the merits: Two Mules for Sister Sara is pretty good, light western entertainment (Eastwood and MacLaine make a great odd couple), and Joe Kidd is pretty straightforward but worth watching for sure.

Elvis_Christ 10-20-2008 06:43 PM

Is High Plains Drifter the one where he rapes a chick?

The Mothman 10-20-2008 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by The_Return (Post 745897)
Should just get this set:

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/...zL._SS500_.jpg
http://www.amazon.com/Eastwood-Weste.../dp/B000N3SSBW

Dirt cheap, plus you get a couple other cool Eastwood flicks. High Plains Drifter is easily the best of the bunch, but the other two have the merits: Two Mules for Sister Sara is pretty good, light western entertainment (Eastwood and MacLaine make a great odd couple), and Joe Kidd is pretty straightforward but worth watching for sure.


I was actually painfully close to grabbing that at one time, $11 it was, if i see it a best buy again ill grab it for sure.

Jason Grimm 10-21-2008 01:36 AM

Not exactly western, but it's all i can think of...A movie called "The Killing Box". In a nutshell, it's about zombies in a Civil War setting. On a more modern level, the only one I can think of is "Near Dark"; a flick about cowboy vampires more or less...not really a horror though.

The_Return 10-21-2008 05:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Elvis_Christ (Post 745919)
Is High Plains Drifter the one where he rapes a chick?

Yes and no.

He technically does...but whether or not it was actually "rape" is debatable.

_____V_____ 10-21-2008 05:43 AM

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Originally Posted by The_Return (Post 746087)
He technically does...but whether or not it was actually "rape" is debatable.

The woman character in question actually liked it. :p

Festered 10-21-2008 08:26 AM

Enjoyable rape- a common cliche' in the action genre. The actress was Verna Bloom BTW. Eastwood always had very good actresses in his films.

2 Mules is really a bargain- a Don Siegel flick with a great Morricone score.

Festered 10-21-2008 04:01 PM

Since Lee Marvin is currently up for voting in the tourney, you might want to check Liberty Valance and his gang(Lee Van Cleef and Strother Martin)out in this Twilight Zone episode entitled The Grave.

Part 1: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=nCV51JaKk0o

Part 2: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=DEhgYt...eature=related

Part 3: http://www.fistful-of-leone.com/foru...p?board=11.820

The_Return 10-21-2008 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by _____V_____ (Post 746092)
The woman character in question actually liked it. :p

Hence it why it's debatable :p

Festered 10-23-2008 10:31 AM

Soldier Blue(1970) still has one of the most violent scenes in film history, an Indian massacre. Uncut, it's very shocking. A very good film BTW.

phantomstranger 10-25-2008 09:36 AM

For fans of 1950's films, here's a fun little horror western:

"Curse Of The Undead"
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0052718/


As for "The High Plains Drifter" debate. I remember reading an interview with Eastwood many years ago and he was asked about that film and he said, in the original script it was plainly said that "The Stranger" was the dead Marshall's brother out for revenge, but Eastwood wanted the film to be more mystical, so he took out those scenes and gave the film a more supernatural feel. I personally like the idea of a ghostly avenger and that's how I always view the film.


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