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monalisa 05-04-2007 10:27 PM
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Originally Posted by bloodrayne (Post 598672)
It's still human..It's not a fish

Here's another fact...MOST people don't even KNOW they're pregnant until 6-8 weeks (after they miss that period)...Unless they KNOW they had sex without precaution and are fervently testing every week after the fact

Like vomiting?...Some people don't vomit at all...And people will risk vomiting to get drunk

Swollen ankles?...It goes away, it isn't THAT big a discomfort

The pain of chilbirth?...Yeah, that's a doozy...But, it only lasts a little while

Nothing associated with being pregnant is bad enough to merit taking the life of a baby to avoid it

And no matter what happens...It's still not the baby's fault...Why is the life of the mother so much more important than the life of the baby?...The mother was a baby once, too...When did her status change to being a more important person, or a person who deserves life more?


Thanks, he's a doll...But, DAMN is he a stubborn little thing :)

I wasn't deciding anything for anyone...I stated a few facts, asked a couple of questions, and stated my opinion

Just as you have stated yours...And I didn't chide you for it
No offense meant towards anyone. I love a good debate (NOT a fight ;) ). And I do not view this as a fight, just a healthy debate between intelligent, opionated people.

Granted, it's not the baby's fault. I guess it depends on your personal opinion on when life begins. I will say once more, my personal choice would be life, but I strongly believe that I don't have the right to decide that for another person. Therefore, I am pro-choice. BTW pro-choice does NOT mean pro-abortion, just for the record.

Disease 05-04-2007 10:28 PM
This might be the most aptly named thread ever!

monalisa 05-04-2007 10:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Disease (Post 598678)
This might be the most aptly named thread ever!
I sure hope it helps horrorobsessed with her speech. ;)

bloodrayne 05-04-2007 10:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Disease (Post 598678)
This might be the most aptly named thread ever!
Oh, abortion is DEFINITELY a "Touchy Subject"...Just like politics, religion, and other personal topics...We already know that going in

But, there's no reason why people can't discuss it without going nuts :)

monalisa 05-04-2007 10:39 PM
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Originally Posted by bloodrayne (Post 598681)
Oh, abortion is DEFINITELY a "Touchy Subject"...Just like politics, religion, and other personal topics...We already know that going in

But, there's no reason why people can't discuss it without going nuts :)
What if you're nuts to begin with? j/k :p

Dante'sInferno 05-04-2007 10:42 PM
The worst thing you can do is kill someone,Whats even worse is to kill your own baby,that is a part of you at the time.

monalisa 05-04-2007 10:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Dante'sInferno (Post 598689)
The worst thing you can do is kill someone,Whats even worse is to kill your own baby,that is a part of you at the time.
Yah, jump in as soon as you grow a uterus and can get pregnant yourself.

Dante'sInferno 05-04-2007 10:50 PM
Haha,So only Women should respond to this?

bloodrayne 05-04-2007 10:53 PM
OH...I just wanted to add something...It really IS possible to 'not have sex'...I was celebate for 7 years...I lived...I mean, it was a little scary there for a while...There were times when I wasn't sure I was gonna pull through...But, I made it...Shoo! :D

Disease 05-04-2007 10:57 PM
I'm not touching this anymore.....

bloodrayne 05-04-2007 10:57 PM
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Originally Posted by monalisa (Post 598693)
Yah, jump in as soon as you grow a uterus and can get pregnant yourself.
Hmm...I dunno...I think a man has a right to decide whether HIS baby should live or die, too...That's the part that makes the least sense in all of this...It's just as much HIS baby, as it is hers

I guess I just can't possibly conceive of a woman's body being more important than an entire LIFE...That part always confuses me

bloodrayne 05-04-2007 10:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Disease (Post 598699)
I'm not touching this anymore.....
Aww...Come on...Touch it...You know you wanna

:D :p

Dante'sInferno 05-04-2007 10:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Disease (Post 598699)
I'm not touching this anymore.....
I agree.Thers no point.Its in there hands,if they want to kill unborn children,its on them.

bloodrayne 05-04-2007 11:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Dante'sInferno (Post 598703)
I agree.Thers no point.Its in there hands,if they want to kill unborn children,its on them.
Aww...Don't think like that...We're not here to change the world, we're only discussing something...There's ALWAYS a 'point' to speaking your mind and being heard...Everyone has a right to their opinion :)

monalisa 05-04-2007 11:04 PM
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Originally Posted by bloodrayne (Post 598697)
OH...I just wanted to add something...It really IS possible to 'not have sex'...I was celebate for 7 years...I lived...I mean, it was a little scary there for a while...There were times when I wasn't sure I was gonna pull through...But, I made it...Shoo! :D
Good for you, but I can't imagine guys going that long, unless they are virgins. Once a guy does it, he becomes a life support system for his penis. OK, not ALL guys, but most. For most of the guys that say "if you don't want to get pregnant, don't have sex", they're out there doing it and many times it's unprotected. Girls can be guilty of this too, but it's way easier for a guy cuz there is no risk of him being the one that gets pregnant. It's kind of a double standard, just like the old thing of if a guy has a lot of sex partners, he's a stud (high fivin' all his buddies). If a girl does it, she's a whore.

monalisa 05-04-2007 11:06 PM
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Originally Posted by monalisa (Post 598693)
Yah, jump in as soon as you grow a uterus and can get pregnant yourself.
I was just ribbin' ya Dante. :p Nice to see ya back.

bloodrayne 05-04-2007 11:08 PM
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Originally Posted by monalisa (Post 598706)
It's kind of a double standard, just like the old thing of if a guy has a lot of sex partners, he's a stud (high fivin' all his buddies). If a girl does it, she's a whore.
Oh, I have TONS of sex now...But, only with one person, and I don't get paid...So, I guess technically I'm not a whore...But, Dustin has just as much sex as I do...and he IS a stud...haha

BTW...I can have all the sex I want now, cuz I made DAMN sure I won't get pregnant again...And it IS 100% effective ;)

monalisa 05-04-2007 11:09 PM
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Originally Posted by bloodrayne (Post 598708)
Oh, I have TONS of sex now...But, only with one person, and I don't get paid...So, I guess technically I'm not a whore...But, Dustin has just as much sex as I do...and he IS a stud...haha

BTW...I can have all the sex I want now, cuz I made DAMN sure I won't get pregnant again...And it IS 100% effective ;)
Not lots of sex, lots of sex partners. OK, I should have said slut, not whore. ;)

Dante'sInferno 05-04-2007 11:10 PM
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Originally Posted by monalisa (Post 598706)
Good for you, but I can't imagine guys going that long, unless they are virgins. Once a guy does it, he becomes a life support system for his penis. OK, not ALL guys, but most. For most of the guys that say "if you don't want to get pregnant, don't have sex", they're out there doing it and many times it's unprotected. Girls can be guilty of this too, but it's way easier for a guy cuz there is no risk of him being the one that gets pregnant. It's kind of a double standard, just like the old thing of if a guy has a lot of sex partners, he's a stud (high fivin' all his buddies). If a girl does it, she's a whore.
Males are simple-minded creatures most of the time,led by their penis,but there are a few good men out there.The ones who deserve a choice.Instead of some asshole that gets 30 women pregnant then runs off,like a one night stand,and their pressured into killing their baby,because they feel all alone.But,its a part of you.If you do have sex and dont want to get....wait...ever find it weird that some women CANT get pregnant when they want a baby VERY badly,and yet,some women get pregnant on first intercourse.But please wear a condom,if you do not want to get pregnant.Should they stop abortion?Its up to the couple/woman.

Dante'sInferno 05-04-2007 11:11 PM
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Originally Posted by monalisa (Post 598707)
I was just ribbin' ya Dante. :p Nice to see ya back.
Oh im sorry.I thought you were serious.


You played me!Hah and thanks.:D

Dante'sInferno 05-04-2007 11:13 PM
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Originally Posted by bloodrayne (Post 598708)
Oh, I have TONS of sex now...But, only with one person, and I don't get paid...So, I guess technically I'm not a whore...But, Dustin has just as much sex as I do...and he IS a stud...haha

BTW...I can have all the sex I want now, cuz I made DAMN sure I won't get pregnant again...And it IS 100% effective ;)
Once i do the giggity i will probly go all out with chains,whips,bondage,handcuffes.You know,fun stuff like that.




Erm...Go you Rayne!Dear god,i need a girl friend.Im so bored now,its unbeliaveble.

bloodrayne 05-04-2007 11:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Dante'sInferno (Post 598713)
Dear god,i need a girl friend.Im so bored now,its unbeliaveble.
Aww, you poor, sweet thing...Girlfriends shouldn't be a 'cure for boredom'...lol...Play a cool game, that eats up a lot of time (I wish the baby would let me finish Silent Hill 3, I'm gonna get back to it in a few minutes)...Or learn something new about an interesting subject...Watch a bunch of horror movies (with friends, that's even more fun), read some novels, draw, paint, create, make something...There's LOTS to do, Baby :)

monalisa 05-04-2007 11:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Dante'sInferno (Post 598711)
Oh im sorry.I thought you were serious.


You played me!Hah and thanks.:D
Yah, sarcasm doesn't always work when it's typed and not spoken. ;) :p

Dante'sInferno 05-04-2007 11:22 PM
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Originally Posted by bloodrayne (Post 598719)
Aww, you poor, sweet thing...Girlfriends shouldn't be a 'cure for boredom'...lol...Play a cool game, that eats up a lot of time (I wish the baby would let me finish Silent Hill 3, I'm gonna get back to it in a few minutes)...Or learn something new about an interesting subject...Watch a bunch of horror movies (with friends, that's even more fun), read some novels, draw, paint, create, make something...There's LOTS to do, Baby :)
I know i want the bond though,you know?Well of course you do!Ive only felt that once,and i would give anything to feel that again.Oh yeah Silent hill 3 is pretty cool.Better then i expected,stear clear of 4 though.

Dante'sInferno 05-04-2007 11:24 PM
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Originally Posted by monalisa (Post 598721)
Yah, sarcasm doesn't always work when it's typed and not spoken. ;) :p
Yeah i agree.How have you been,and have you watched Beside you in time,or have you been busy?I went to go see spiderman 3 today,going again tomorrow.You should go see it.

monalisa 05-04-2007 11:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Dante'sInferno (Post 598713)
Once i do the giggity i will probly go all out with chains,whips,bondage,handcuffes.You know,fun stuff like that.
Um, ah, bbllaaahbibiddyblah *jaw hits floor*, you little devil you. Oh yah, DON'T GET HER PREGNANT (trying to stay on topic). :D

bloodrayne 05-04-2007 11:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Dante'sInferno (Post 598723)
I know i want the bond though,you know?Well of course you do!Ive only felt that once,and i would give anything to feel that again..
I know, Sweetie...But, you've got plenty of time for that...You only get to be young for a little while, then you've got 50-60 years to do all the rest

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Originally Posted by Dante'sInferno (Post 598723)
Oh yeah Silent hill 3 is pretty cool.Better then i expected,stear clear of 4 though.
NOOOOO...It's 4 that I'm so looking forward to...The screenshots are freaking AMAZING

Dante'sInferno 05-04-2007 11:28 PM
I wont!:D I will wear protection.But that whole darker thing would interesting,whips,chains.....wow.I need to stop that.I would be the good kind of father anyway.I would bust my ass,get a job and provide for my kid,wife,family.And i would never hurt them.And theyll be listening to NIN at age one!Shit yeah!Oh and ill get them hooked on horror movies,just like i was.As a baby.

Dante'sInferno 05-04-2007 11:30 PM
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Originally Posted by bloodrayne (Post 598727)
I know, Sweetie...But, you've got plenty of time for that...You only get to be young for a little while, then you've got 50-60 years to do all the rest

NOOOOO...It's 4 that I'm so looking forward to...The screenshots are freaking AMAZING
Hehe,if might fall off by that time,if i never use it.lol

Oh and i know!They do look amazing,its a fun game,i was just a little dissapointed.But it was still good.The only reason i dont like it,was because i got stuck and kept dying with no health.Fucking cheating bosses!:mad:

monalisa 05-04-2007 11:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Dante'sInferno (Post 598724)
Yeah i agree.How have you been,and have you watched Beside you in time,or have you been busy?I went to go see spiderman 3 today,going again tomorrow.You should go see it.
My portable DVD player I got had a bad pixel so I had to send it back. Waiting for the replacement, THEN I will watch Beside You In Time. :) I'll probably wait til Spidy 3 comes out on DVD, as always. Solo-puppy is doing good too. Soooooo cuuute! Still too chewy though.

bloodrayne 05-04-2007 11:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Dante'sInferno (Post 598728)
I wont!:D I will wear protection.But that whole darker thing would interesting,whips,chains.....wow.I need to stop that.I would be the good kind of father anyway.I would bust my ass,get a job and provide for my kid,wife,family.And i would never hurt them.And theyll be listening to NIN at age one!Shit yeah!Oh and ill get them hooked on horror movies,just like i was.As a baby.
HaHa...Sounds JUST like our family...Except substitute metal (He's especially fond of Norwegian metal, Satyricon makes him very happy...He's really into the black/death stuff...I think he just loves the hyper speed and the growling) instead of NIN for our 1 year-old :)

Dante'sInferno 05-04-2007 11:34 PM
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Originally Posted by monalisa (Post 598731)
My portable DVD player I got had a bad pixel so I had to send it back. Waiting for the replacement, THEN I will watch Beside You In Time. :) I'll probably wait til Spidy 3 comes out on DVD, as always. Solo-puppy is doing good too. Soooooo cuuute! Still too chewy though.
Yeah,its real good,and beside you in time will be awsome.Closure is....like wow though.But its out of print.Yeah and my cat is still a crackhead,he hates gracie even more now.Damn my siamese is mean.

Disease 05-04-2007 11:36 PM
yeah, or we will have to go over all this abortion shit again!

Dante'sInferno 05-04-2007 11:36 PM
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Originally Posted by bloodrayne (Post 598733)
HaHa...Sounds JUST like our family...Except substitute metal (He's especially fond of Norwegian metal, Satyricon makes him very happy...He's really into the black/death stuff...I think he just loves the hyper speed and the growling) instead of NIN for our 1 year-old :)
I like that too,ill rotate Slayer and Lamb of God for him,and then put on some Sabbath.I enjoy underground german heavy metal speed records.



Whooooooooooooooo!Oh and um...He head banging yet?:D

bloodrayne 05-04-2007 11:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Dante'sInferno (Post 598729)
The only reason i dont like it,was because i got stuck and kept dying with no health.Fucking cheating bosses!:mad:
UGH...That's gonna suck...I HATE that...That's why I'm still stuck on Resident Evil: Code Veronica :mad:

Dante'sInferno 05-04-2007 11:39 PM
Hah!I never even fought alexia on that!Fucking bandersnatchers!

bloodrayne 05-04-2007 11:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Dante'sInferno (Post 598736)
Whooooooooooooooo!Oh and um...He head banging yet?:D
Oh HELL yes...To ANYTHING!...You should see him furiously headbang to 'Are You Sleeping, Brother John?'...It's freakin' hilarious...Someone should TOTALLY metal out some kids' songs...That would be awesome

If I can ever find a way to get him on video, and I can post it somehow, you guys have GOT to see him do that...lol, he damn near bounces out of his carseat, headbanging in the Suburban...OH, and he dances to the sound of the washing machine, and the dishwasher, too...HAHAHA

Dante'sInferno 05-04-2007 11:43 PM
Haha!Heh thats the greatest thing ive ever heard!:D You should get youtube account,and then post it on there.Its easy.

bloodrayne 05-04-2007 11:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Dante'sInferno (Post 598743)
Haha!Heh thats the greatest thing ive ever heard!:D You should get youtube account,and then post it on there.Its easy.
Yeah, I actually have a YouTube account, but I have no way to make a video...I got a new digicam, but it's complicated...So, I left it laying around, baby got ahold of it...I'm sure it wouldn't work now even if I DID figure it out...Seri can probably do it sometime, when she isn't working (which isn't often)...Hmmm

Oh well...I'm gonna go play now (Ash FINALLY fell asleep, and Dustin's playing Eternal Darkness...So, I have some time to myself)...Gotta kick a game's ASS :p

Take care, guys :)

Dante'sInferno 05-05-2007 12:06 AM
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Originally Posted by bloodrayne (Post 598746)
Yeah, I actually have a YouTube account, but I have no way to make a video...I got a new digicam, but it's complicated...So, I left it laying around, baby got ahold of it...I'm sure it wouldn't work now even if I DID figure it out...Seri can probably do it sometime, when she isn't working (which isn't often)...Hmmm

Oh well...I'm gonna go play now (Ash FINALLY fell asleep, and Dustin's playing Eternal Darkness...So, I have some time to myself)...Gotta kick a game's ASS :p

Take care, guys :)
Have a good time,and try not to die!


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