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_____V_____ 04-18-2007 08:19 PM

Of course we are talking about one Alien here. A whole nest of Aliens would kick everybody's ass listed above in a matter of seconds. But Jason has a sixth sense. Many a time in the movies we see it, as a close up to his mask and one of his eyes shining with some new light inside.

I dont think Jason would let himself be ripped to pieces so easily. And remember, the Alien doesnt tear into you right away. It tries to bite and grab first, in order to take you alive, to the nearest face-hugger egg. If the prey is too vicious, then only it responds by swiftly killing it. Jason can be a smart fighter in an one-on-one. True he doesnt have much grey cells, but yeah in a fight, even against the Alien, Jason is a tough SOB to beat.

Prey 04-18-2007 08:35 PM

Remember Jason wears a hockey mask. The view to the Alien itself would convince it that this one cant be dragged back to an egg. It would be a fight alright. And the Alien definitely has a lot of edges over Jason, if it comes down to a fight between em.

stubbornforgey 04-19-2007 07:01 AM

Dracula..
those other young bucks would be no match against a man who can mesmerise and hypnotise ..
a man who can change form and pick his time of attack.
a man who can decide at his own leisure whether to turn you into a living dead
or just devour you outright.
'sigh'..i so love the man :o

Prey 04-19-2007 07:24 AM

Valid points. But the question is, can the Alien be hypnotised into submission? If the answer is yes, even Freddy can beat it.

_____V_____ 04-19-2007 07:51 AM

Dracula is a huge match for the Alien. I dont think it would know how to encounter a vampire. Treat him like a human or an animal? And the ripping to shreds approach wont work with Dracula, especially at night.

Kane_Hodder 04-19-2007 10:16 AM

I side with Jason. No matter who the opponent is, Jason can take on anyone on his day, and win.

Despare 04-19-2007 12:31 PM

I would love to see a movie setting like Pitch Black with a ton of Aliens vs. a whole army of the undead raised by Dracula. I'm talking kick-ass vapires too, wolf/mist/bat forms and whole deal.

Posher778 04-19-2007 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Despare (Post 591064)
I would love to see a movie setting like Pitch Black with a ton of Aliens vs. a whole army of the undead raised by Dracula. I'm talking kick-ass vapires too, wolf/mist/bat forms and whole deal.

Oh sheesh. One alien is hard enough, but an army? Alien still.

Despare 04-19-2007 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Posher778 (Post 591101)
Oh sheesh. One alien is hard enough, but an army? Alien still.

Vs. an entire army of the undead which could fly above the Aliens, study their movements, use mist to come up right behind them and then their super strength to literally tear them apart. It would be fun to see. Or one Alien vs. the crazy ass cyber Jason from Jason X heh.

Posher778 04-19-2007 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Despare (Post 591111)
Vs. an entire army of the undead which could fly above the Aliens, study their movements, use mist to come up right behind them and then their super strength to literally tear them apart. It would be fun to see. Or one Alien vs. the crazy ass cyber Jason from Jason X heh.

But as far as I know, not all the vampires can make mist and stuff, just dracula. But the thing is, in a war, nature ALWAYS wins. You just can't defeat it. And aliens behave naturally and instinctively, just as the vampires would study them, the aliens would be studying just as hard. Plus the queen reproduces extremely fast, and any stupid vampire that lands on the ground would get a nice facehugger surprise.

Despare 04-19-2007 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Posher778 (Post 591117)
But as far as I know, not all the vampires can make mist and stuff, just dracula. But the thing is, in a war, nature ALWAYS wins. You just can't defeat it. And aliens behave naturally and instinctively, just as the vampires would study them, the aliens would be studying just as hard. Plus the queen reproduces extremely fast, and any stupid vampire that lands on the ground would get a nice facehugger surprise.

Aliens aren't nature... they're animals just like human beings are. A facehugger couldn't live in a vampire, it's just a walking corpse. The Alien is only instinct and the lack of thought is what would undo it.

Posher778 04-19-2007 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Despare (Post 591124)
Aliens aren't nature... they're animals just like human beings are. A facehugger couldn't live in a vampire, it's just a walking corpse. The Alien is only instinct and the lack of thought is what would undo it.

I disagree. Aliens are extremely intelligent. They're a lot like velociraptors if you think about it. They work as a team, they don't show any mercy whatsoever, and they learn faster than anything i've ever seen. Vampires have fangs... and can become a small bat. Sure they're "undead" but what about sunlight? I think there are many ways an alien could kill it, not just the heart. Plus, vampires show fear to things, aliens are just cold hard killers. Also, if multiple aliens devour various sections of a vampire, what then? Does it just SPRING out of a hole in the ground?

Despare 04-19-2007 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Posher778 (Post 591137)
I disagree. Aliens are extremely intelligent. They're a lot like velociraptors if you think about it. They work as a team, they don't show any mercy whatsoever, and they learn faster than anything i've ever seen. Vampires have fangs... and can become a small bat. Sure they're "undead" but what about sunlight? I think there are many ways an alien could kill it, not just the heart. Plus, vampires show fear to things, aliens are just cold hard killers. Also, if multiple aliens devour various sections of a vampire, what then? Does it just SPRING out of a hole in the ground?

If a vampire was "eaten" then the regeneration would allow it to burst from the Alien just like a chestburster... hmmmm taste of their medicine.

Posher778 04-19-2007 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Despare (Post 591174)
If a vampire was "eaten" then the regeneration would allow it to burst from the Alien just like a chestburster... hmmmm taste of their medicine.

I don't think it would work like that. I think the vampire thing wasn't thought through enough. It doesn't all work, even supernaturally. Whatever, aliens are cuter anyways.:)

Despare 04-19-2007 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Posher778 (Post 591187)
I don't think it would work like that. I think the vampire thing wasn't thought through enough. It doesn't all work, even supernaturally. Whatever, aliens are cuter anyways.:)

lol

The key word is "supernatural", where-as Aliens are natural the vampire is not. I don't think a battle would work because you couldn't adhere to the natural world of the Alien with the demi-god-like Dracula.

Posher778 04-19-2007 02:15 PM

Hmm if they were all mortal, Alien would have them in a second. Immortality is too unreal IMO. I think it's just annoying. Like vampires, stupid. Like the superhero that has too many powers or something. Werewolves makes sense if you look at it in a regeneration sense, like Dog Soldiers, shot and shot and shot, but they come back. I think they just heal fast because they have human and dog dna mixed and they just.... heal. Vampires have teeth and animal powers and do everything, and it's so unbelievable.

Off topic, but I think aliens (like the ones in this discussion) are possible. I mean, what do we know? Space is huge. I think werewolves is POSSIBLE, but maybe not in the cinematic sense like it is. I think people can get infected with something weird and become wolf like, or get characteristics. I dunno about all the silver stuff and full moon yadayada.

Prey 04-19-2007 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Posher778 (Post 591199)
Off topic, but I think aliens (like the ones in this discussion) are possible. I mean, what do we know? Space is huge. I think werewolves is POSSIBLE, but maybe not in the cinematic sense like it is. I think people can get infected with something weird and become wolf like, or get characteristics. I dunno about all the silver stuff and full moon yadayada.

Lycanthropy.


These are for you, Posh :-

http://www.angelfire.com/mi2/horror/Shift.html


and


http://www.truthbeknown.com/aliens.htm

stubbornforgey 04-20-2007 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Prey (Post 590926)
Valid points. But the question is, can the Alien be hypnotised into submission? If the answer is yes, even Freddy can beat it.


Dracula can turn him into Alien soup' :o

Prey 04-20-2007 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by xperiment67 (Post 591547)
Wow.. you guys are dense.

Freddy Vs Jason Vs Michael


was a GOD DAMN APRIL FOOLS JOKE

I guess you fuckheads got fooled.


I am guessing you didnt notice the other 7 names in that poll. Its a hypothetical discussion as to who would emerge the winner, if such a situation existed. Given the topics this forum has been spewing of late, I think this is a very good way of getting the horror general forum back on track. But thick brains need clearer eyes and better conception for their grey cells to decipher anything as coherent.:rolleyes:


Maybe Dracula can do that, Stubbs, if he can hypnotise the Alien. But my question still stands, can the Alien be hypnotised as any other animal?

_____V_____ 04-20-2007 08:26 PM

Keep this BS out of the thread please, xperiment. We were having a healthy discussion till you had to butt in with your comment and instigate that reply. I dont want another good thread to bite the dust because of such replies.


Lets get this back on track...Ok we have been talking about the Alien, Jason, Dracula & Werewolf. We have forgotten Michael. If Jason can regenerate and come back every time, why cant Michael?

And what about Leatherface? It seemed unclear in the movies if he could actually be killed. But he is a human under someone else's skin (or is he?) and can be killed, right?

Posher778 04-20-2007 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by _____V_____ (Post 592178)
Keep this BS out of the thread please, xperiment. We were having a healthy discussion till you had to butt in with your comment and instigate that reply. I dont want another good thread to bite the dust because of such replies.


Lets get this back on track...Ok we have been talking about the Alien, Jason, Dracula & Werewolf. We have forgotten Michael. If Jason can regenerate and come back every time, why cant Michael?

And what about Leatherface? It seemed unclear in the movies if he could actually be killed. But he is a human under someone else's skin (or is he?) and can be killed, right?

He's a big pussy, yes he can be killed. They only get victims because of their trickery. If it was a decent fight I think most people could get away.

_____V_____ 04-20-2007 08:44 PM

So that basically leaves him out of the equation.

What about Frankie? He's all parts and a tough SOB to beat. Couldnt he take on Jason or Michael?

Or would it be too tough of a battle for him to square off against the Alien or Dracula? (after all we did have movies like Dracula vs Frankie)

Dante'sInferno 04-20-2007 08:44 PM

Alien....simple.Nothing could beat it.Not even the immense cuteness of a box of kittens.

_____V_____ 04-20-2007 08:47 PM

DANTE!! Boy am I glad to see you!:D

Go vote in my tourney already. You ll love this new one.;)


The Alien can be killed, and by someone swifter than it. Thats what we are thinking about. Could it be the Werewolf, Dracula or one of the killers? hmm....

Dante'sInferno 04-20-2007 08:51 PM

Okay...What about the Queen alien,she would kill everything.The wearwolve would be like.....OH SHITTTT!!!!!!!!!"alien then bites its head off"Then goes after Pimheads,she impales him with her tale.and rips him in half.Jasons all like..."der"Michael,throws a butcher knive at the queen alien,then blood spews out,and burns michaels face off,then frankenstein gives the queen alien a chronic tittie twister...THE END!


The winner is.Frankenstein!

_____V_____ 04-20-2007 08:54 PM

:D


That would make one heck of a VERSUS movie doncha think!!

Dante'sInferno 04-20-2007 09:01 PM

It would be amazing entertainment dude!U,...oh yeah i forgot about Freddy,when frankenstein goes to sleep,freddys there...And he whips out his penis and smacks frankenstein in the face with it(He would so do that,its in freddys nature)And frankenstein is blinded,oh and then...Freddy starts stabbing him in the testicles,untill frankenstein throws up,then freddy slices his head off.and then he says.I deafeted the tittie slayer!!"then he does the moon walk"

That would be the greatest ending EVER.

_____V_____ 04-20-2007 09:05 PM

Whoa...if they ever make a Scary Movie 5, they ll know which plot to use now.


:D

Prey 04-21-2007 03:36 AM

Out of those listed, I dont think Leatherface and Frankenstein's monster stand much of a chance against the others. Both of em are huge chunks of meat and depend on brute force more than grey cells.

The Alien can be a very intelligent and smart creature (as is evident by the movies) and it will be the toughest SOB to beat, given any situation, or any opponent, IMO.

Kane_Hodder 04-22-2007 03:03 AM

Even against such formidable opponents as Dracula, Pinhead and The Alien, it is nice to see Jason leading with 6 votes.

_____V_____ 03-20-2010 10:07 PM

**Bump**

Here it is...the ultimate battle of the horror baddies!

Choose!

Caenxavier 03-21-2010 12:35 AM

Pinhead hands down. He might have a bit of trouble with Freddy, but he never sleeps...

He's a fucking monster from hell for God's sake.

ferretchucker 03-21-2010 02:58 AM

I voted the Alien. To begin with the facehugger would kill on of them, then the little alien would run away and grow into the real deal. It could stab Dracula through the heart and easily use it's stealth to kill the others. Perhaps Pinhead would be a challenge...

Straker 03-21-2010 06:22 AM

Jason Voorhees- Always gonna struggle in this situation, not smart enough to cope with a free for all of this nature. Would deal out plenty of damage, but would be an easy target too.
Michael Myers- Similar problem to Jason. Hard worker, but his under developed brain is gonna make him an easy target.
Freddy Krueger- Dark horse. Hes got the smarts to cause some trouble, but there's gotta be a question mark over his durability.
Leatherface- Needs to find a corner to hide in, dude would be effective in the real world, but he's out of his leauge here.
Dracula- Possible contender, but too many achillies heels. Would be smart enough to pick his fights, but I doubt he'd win it.
Frankenstein- Needs to steer clear of Freddy on the battle field otherwise he's in a world of trouble. Durable, but not smart enough to be a serious contender.
The Mummy- Just too slow.
American Werewolf- Would be trouble for any of these guys one on one, but nothign stands out enough to make me think he would be around at the end.
Pinhead- Way over powered for this battle. Would need to be a lament puzzle box lying around the battle field just to give the others a chance. Even then I have him as a strong favourite.
The Alien- Strong. Smart. Durable. Definatley gonna be around until the end.

In short, its all about pinhead. If one of the more intelligant competitiors could get him out of the equation early then that would throw the thing wide open, but he's just way to powerful to bet against.

I'd like to see Chucky in there to add his brand of violence to procedings too.


:eek:

Despare 03-21-2010 06:39 AM

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Originally Posted by ferretchucker (Post 853754)
IIt could stab Dracula through the heart and easily use it's stealth to kill the others.

And it's made of wood?

fiend_skull 03-21-2010 06:49 AM

My choice would be Pinhead. Like many before him he has been killed, but the difference between him and others is that he has a direct connection to hell and whoever he kills can be turned into a Cenobite as well.His power is almost Cosmic as he can throw chains into any direction and rip into his opponent. He could take out all of his mortal opponents easily, but the immortal opponents (IE Dracula and Freddy) would be formidable opponents.

Though I do know an enemy that could annihilate all of them....SEQUELS AND REMAKES AHHHHH!...No? Okay. Then I'll just go with Pinhead

ferretchucker 03-21-2010 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Despare (Post 853771)
And it's made of wood?

Does the stake have to be wooden? I'd assume that it was simply about destroying the heart.

The main problem here is intelligence. Whilst Michael, Jason, Leatherface, The Mummy and [depending on which version] Frankenstein's Monster are all quite intuitive in a fight I don't think they would do so well in this situation.

The Mummy would probably be the first to go.

Franky would last a while but would eventually be torn to shreds.

Jason may well use his machete to pick off a few but I can see him being taken by surprise.

Michael needs to learn to run or doesn't stand a chance.

Leatherface would be picked off very easily. Against ordinary humans he's fine but I'd say even one of these guys would kill him easily.

The Alien and American Werewolf are the true beasts in this fight.

Wolfy, I think would go for a full on attack which might get him somewhere but he'd probably be picked off from behind.

The Alien would analyze it's environment and bare in mind these things can sense who to kill and who not to. The queen knew that Bishop wouldn't be suitable for impregnation and in Alien3 it knew Ripley was already up the duff with one. I think it could sense who to attack and in what way. Also, if I understand this right he wouldn't be trying to impregnate any of them since it's just him and no eggs around.

Dracula, Pinhead and Freddy are all intelligent supernatural beings. All of them are undead.

Dracula is a savage with plenty of skills and I think they would get him far but to be honest I don't even see him sticking around for this fight. He might harvest the remains but a brawl of this sort doesn't seem his thing. I think he'd just fly off somewhere.

Freddy understand's someone's fears but to be in this battle he would have to be in the real world where he's just a burn victim with some claws. I don't think so...

Pinhead with his massive powers would just own. Him and the Count probably have a thang going on. Either they'd be good friends considering Dracula's deal with the devil or Dracula would solve the puzzle.

Conclusion: It's between Dracula, Pinhead and the Alien. Looking over things I think these two could get the alien. Whilst it stays in the shadows a lot, as soon as it goes to attack it's pretty vulnerable especially to the powers of hell. He couldn't impregnate any of them.

Doc Faustus 03-21-2010 10:08 AM

Yup. Stakes must be wooden. Some mythoi even say a specific kind of wood. Ash or rowan, I believe.

Scarebaby 03-21-2010 11:00 AM

Pinhead, all the way! <3

scouse mac 03-22-2010 02:57 AM

Alien all the way

It can spit acid, has paralyzing stingers in its tail and is incredibly fast and athletic. Fairly sure it could tear any and everything limb from limb.

Shame an unarmed Predator wasn't thrown in the ring also


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