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bloodrayne 12-30-2006 02:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Phalanx (Post 526335)
What the place needs is a mod or two that aren't overly concerned with every single person in here "liking" them...

We did have a mod like that at one time, but that person is no longer here...
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Originally Posted by Phalanx (Post 526335)
one that won't give a shit if some little idiot questions their decision making ability, and to act upon situations like this in a more decisive manner

If you're refering to my decision to let the 'ban on sight' go, after one of the other mods questioned my decision to enact it...I would like to respond to that:

1) The mod who decided that I acted in a 'questionable' manner, is FAR from an "idiot"

2) Are you suggesting that we need a ROGUE mod, who does NOT consult with the other mods, or consider the input of the other members of this forum before taking action, and acts SOLELY on his/her own, based on their own perceptions, wants, opinions, likes, dislikes, etcetera?...I have to strongly disagree with that...
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Originally Posted by stygianwitch (Post 526299)
I wish we could get rid of them permanently :(

That's impossible here
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Originally Posted by Haunted (Post 526319)
Unfortunately there's no IP banning at this time, remember? If there were, we'd be in business. If the mods just simply banned these guys, they'll come right back.

As they do...This is the game that we play...Perhaps they just want new screen names...I seriously doubt that creating a new screen name will alter anyone's personality
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Originally Posted by Haunted (Post 526325)
Maybe if we made a thread with all of us saying, "Please Horror, IP ban these guys because they've constantly entered the forum and tried to ruin the place."

We tried that last time...We received NO response (I even put it in the moderator's forum)...Horror never even looked at it...The ONLY person who DOES have the power to do anything here that would actually WORK, won't do it/doesn't give a shit

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Originally Posted by Spallalala (Post 526328)
Basically I think if everyone agrees that these 2 are fucktards the mods should wake up ( I mean actually wake up cos I think there all sleepin ).

I don't know about the others, but I never sleep, this baby doesn't allow it...And...One of the other moderators (the best we ever had), is having a pretty damned difficult time right now, as his mother became very ill last month and just died last week (Happy Holidays, huh?), so I don't think that he's overly concerned with trying to uphold the illustrious reputation, of this most respectable forum at the moment...Kinda puts things into perspective a little, doesn't it?

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Originally Posted by Spallalala (Post 526332)
If we can't get em banned perm or banned at all then hit the ignore button just like MD did with me. :P hehe Easy right.

Well, there ya go...That's why the function exists...I really don't know what else there is to advise beyond that...

Sure, if each individual member uses the function, the problem goes away for THEM...But, some of you may ask "What about visitors or new members to the site?...They can still see the bullshit"...True, but if Horror doesn't give a shit about the content or reputation of HIS site, then why the hell should WE?...Do some of you feel 'dirty' because you belong to a site with such a shitty reputation? :p...The bottom line is, YOU guys don't HAVE to read it, or even SEE it, if you REALLY don't want to...And if you DO happen to see it (perhaps in a quote, or you don't wanna hit that ignore button), you DEFINITELY do NOT have to respond to it, or even give a shit about it

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Originally Posted by Roderick Usher (Post 526339)
Ignored both of them...ah, that feels much better

See people?...It's liberating
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Originally Posted by Spallalala (Post 526417)
We do need some more mods...maybe 2 more mods maybe even 3 be available.

Find me ONE person who can hammer a nail with a pickle, and I'll recommend them MYSELF (however, it won't do a damned bit of good, because Horror would NEVER see it)...

The bottom line is...WE (the mods) do NOT have the tools that are necessary to perform the duties that SHOULD be performed here...

We CAN:

1) Delete, edit, merge, and move shit
2) Warn people to 'knock it off', which REALLY works when they know that there's NO repercussion if they DON'T...:rolleyes:
Think of it this way:

Judge: If you don't stop killing people, I'll take away your knife
Serial Killer: So, I have another knife
Judge: Well, I'll take that one, too
Serial Killer: It really doesn't matter, I can get more knives, or a gun, or a chainsaw, or...
Judge: Yeah, I guess you're right...Oh well, I did my best with what I have to work with...It isn't like I can actually lock you up or REALLY stop you, so have at it...
3) Allow nuisances to create new screen names


Sooo...Whatever ELSE you guys want from us (the mods)...We just don't HAVE

Haunted 12-30-2006 05:11 AM

Well... shit...

I read what we've all said collectively and then what the members said and Rayne's response. Since Horror doesn't really feel like doing dick, then I suppose that the "Ignore" option is the best. I mean, you could think about it like this: What's the worse thing you could do to people like these jokers to them and for them? Give them attention. Therefore, anytime this situation arises, we just use ignore.

If you want to give them a good "shouting at" first go ahead, but then, ignore.

God, am I the nerdy kid or what, but seriously, in order not to start fighting amongst ourselves... What the hell, right?

*Sings to the tune of Goodmorning Starshine* Goodmorning bullshit...

crabapple 12-30-2006 07:24 AM

You can also ignore them without using the "ignore" feature...that's good too
;)

Haunted 12-30-2006 08:26 AM

Well, the "ignore feature" can help you practice ignoring people. However, if the "ignored person" is quoted, well...c'est la vie or something similar.

stygianwitch 12-30-2006 08:47 AM

the ignore button is a wonderful thing, it's really nice not to see the crap these two write

Quote:

Originally Posted by bloodrayne
The bottom line is...WE (the mods) do NOT have the tools that are necessary to perform the duties that SHOULD be performed here...

We CAN:

1) Delete, edit, merge, and move shit
2) Warn people to 'knock it off', which REALLY works when they know that there's NO repercussion if they DON'T...
Think of it this way:

Judge: If you don't stop killing people, I'll take away your knife
Serial Killer: So, I have another knife
Judge: Well, I'll take that one, too
Serial Killer: It really doesn't matter, I can get more knives, or a gun, or a chainsaw, or...
Judge: Yeah, I guess you're right...Oh well, I did my best with what I have to work with...It isn't like I can actually lock you up or REALLY stop you, so have at it...
3) Allow nuisances to create new screen names


Sooo...Whatever ELSE you guys want from us (the mods)...We just don't HAVE

We're not having a dig at you or any of the mods BR, IMO there aren't enough of you to properly police a forum this size

Do you think if we PM'd Horror 'on mass' to get some admin rights for mods it might help, especially if we pointed out that it's his site that's suffering, not just the forum?

X¤MurderDoll¤X 12-30-2006 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by stygianwitch (Post 526575)
Do you think if we PM'd Horror 'on mass' to get some admin rights for mods it might help, especially if we pointed out that it's his site that's suffering, not just the forum?

no it wouldn't.

Haunted 12-30-2006 09:24 AM

Yeah, it's been made pretty obvious that he doesn't fucking care, which is sad, because the threads in this forum show up on the front page of HDC.

So...

bloodrayne 12-30-2006 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by stygianwitch (Post 526575)
We're not having a dig at you or any of the mods BR, IMO there aren't enough of you to properly police a forum this size

Meh, 'digging' doesn't concern me anyway...BUT...If there were 1,000 of us, we STILL wouldn't be able to IP ban anyone, and so we would have the same problem that we have now...I guess I'm failing to see how more mods would/could help
Quote:

Originally Posted by stygianwitch (Post 526575)
Do you think if we PM'd Horror 'on mass' to get some admin rights for mods it might help, especially if we pointed out that it's his site that's suffering, not just the forum?

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Originally Posted by X¤MurderDoll¤X (Post 526585)
no it wouldn't.

There's your answer

The_Return 12-30-2006 11:27 AM

Now, Ive never been a mod here, but Ive moderated smaller forums before. Maybe its different here, but I highly doubt it: Banning someone takes a grand total of 20 seconds (at most) to click a couple buttons. I agree with you Rayne that they'll just keep coming back, but if you start banning them on sight, what harm would it do? It's not like its strenuous or anything, and not hard at all to recognize these jokers when they sign up. Banning on sight keeps them off the forum for awhile, and eventually they'll get bored/discouraged and leave.

With more mods, there would be more chance of a mod being around when a troll makes their new account, so they really could be banned on sight.

Im not disagreeing with you Rayne, I just dont really get why these guys dont get banned.

bloodrayne 12-30-2006 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by The_Return (Post 526622)
if you start banning them on sight, what harm would it do?

Well, that was kinda what I thought, too...But, this isn't exactly a dictatorship...

AND...When they DO come back, they usually come back with a vengeance, creating 10 times MORE shit...If they are ignored, they just get bored and quietly slink away...OR, if they aren't intelligent enough to go away, or they don't have any other life outside of the internet, no one would really care or even KNOW if they were still here or not, if they simply ignore them...Just let them 'talk' to themselves for a while...

When we requested the power to IP ban people 2 years ago (when Horror actually WAS posting in the moderator forum, and communicating with us)...He told us the reason HE didn't feel that IP banning was necessary was:

1) "What if another (innocent) user wants to visit the forum at the home of the IP banned person, and they are restricted because of someone else?"...He said that wasn't fair

2) "Many times IPs are random, and a person gets a different one every time he signs in, and in those cases it wouldn't even work"...I have NO clue what he was talking about there

3) "Everyone deserves another chance"...He truly believed that if someone were banned, they would straighten up so that they wouldn't be banned again:rolleyes:

4) "How bad could it possibly get?", "How much 'damage' could a couple of irritating people really cause?, it's ONLY an internet forum"...This just shows that he doesn't spend any time AT this forum


So yeah, if the other mods (mod) agreed, we could ban them 50 times a day...But, who has that kind of time?...It takes THEM just as much time to create a new screen name, as it takes for us to ban them...I DO like a lot of games, but that one sucks

crabapple 12-30-2006 12:45 PM

Bottom line, guys...don't respond, and don't let it get to you. They stick around BECAUSE they see that it gets to you. When you're about to type that "fuck off asshole" message, STOP those fingertips. Sure, you might be angry, but they will never know it, and you won't be giving THEM what THEY want.

When you respond, you are doing EXACTLY, PRECISELY what they want you to be doing. You are feeding their sick little monkey minds. (Sorry about the monkey minds comment, Zero.)

X¤MurderDoll¤X 12-30-2006 12:49 PM

best solution is also the easiest, ignore them. don't rely on other people to solve your problems. :)

I don't really have a problem with them, I think they are dumb fucks but I don't let it bother me.

edit: yeah, what he said. :D

The Mothman 12-30-2006 12:50 PM

how does the ignore feature work? does it block out every thread and post by the person chosen, or it it just PM's and such?

bloodrayne 12-30-2006 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by The Mothman (Post 526648)
how does the ignore feature work? does it block out every thread and post by the person chosen, or it it just PM's and such?

Ignore: Keeps you from seeing EVERY post they make
Block user: Keeps them from being able to send you PMs

2 different functions/options

VampiricClown 12-30-2006 01:03 PM

Oh wow...This is the first time I've been in this thread....I just read the whole thing.

I missed a lot since I've been an un-regular - regular. lol

X¤MurderDoll¤X 12-30-2006 01:58 PM

since when do people need a reason to hate?

Phalanx 12-30-2006 02:32 PM

that shit is deep, yo.

bloodrayne 12-30-2006 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phalanx (Post 526687)
that shit is deep, yo.

Heh, somehow it made me think of Jack Handey...And I 'heard' it in that voice when I read it

ManchestrMorgue 12-30-2006 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by bloodrayne (Post 526639)
2) "Many times IPs are random, and a person gets a different one every time he signs in, and in those cases it wouldn't even work"...I have NO clue what he was talking about there

Basically, many ISP's assign dynamic IP addresses to their customers. So each time someone logs in/resets their connection, they are allocated an IP address from a pool of IP addresses that the ISP administers. So they may get a different one each time they eg reset their ADSL router. So banning them by IP could mean that

a/ they just reset their connection and get a different IP address - 'permanent ban' avoided

b/ if an 'innocent' member of the forum is with the same ISP and picks up a 'banned' IP on dynamic allocation, they will have problems.

Spec7ral 12-30-2006 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ManchestrMorgue (Post 526706)
Basically, many ISP's assign dynamic IP addresses to their customers. So each time someone logs in/resets their connection, they are allocated an IP address from a pool of IP addresses that the ISP administers. So they may get a different one each time they eg reset their ADSL router. So banning them by IP could mean that

a/ they just reset their connection and get a different IP address - 'permanent ban' avoided

b/ if an 'innocent' member of the forum is with the same ISP and picks up a 'banned' IP on dynamic allocation, they will have problems.

subnet ban mask. shit happens.

The_Return 12-30-2006 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by bloodrayne (Post 526639)
AND...When they DO come back, they usually come back with a vengeance, creating 10 times MORE shit...If they are ignored, they just get bored and quietly slink away...OR, if they aren't intelligent enough to go away, or they don't have any other life outside of the internet, no one would really care or even KNOW if they were still here or not, if they simply ignore them...Just let them 'talk' to themselves for a while...

I'll admit that I have trolled at forums before (and not only the time that you told me to stop:p), and from personal experience after being banned once or twice and having to make new accounts, the fun goes away FAST. Most sites (Pretty sure HDC does this?) need to send a verification email...so everytime you get banned, you need to make a new hotmail account, too. Way more work than its worth. Id say a few bannings would be enough to keep most anyone away, for awhile at least.

Quote:

Originally Posted by bloodrayne (Post 526639)
So yeah, if the other mods (mod) agreed, we could ban them 50 times a day...But, who has that kind of time?...It takes THEM just as much time to create a new screen name, as it takes for us to ban them...I DO like a lot of games, but that one sucks

Hence why I say we need more mods. Even if they DO keep coming back, mods will be here to stop 'em. Couple extra mods to take the workload off you and Zwoti, ad poof. Pest problems solved.

But hey, like I (and others) have said: the Ignore feature works miracles. Better than nothing:)

Spallalala 01-07-2007 06:39 PM

And once again it happens..Im personally requesting that Renob be banned. He had a on site banning but it never stuck and this shit continues to happen. Yeah I could run through horror and quote all the stupid shit he comes out with but im pretty sure most of you including the mods have seen what has been said.

For those who think im overreacting, tough shit. Why should we have a fucked up site from 1 guy, all you prove from opening your mouth is that one idiot defends another.

So lets get this over and done with..


BAN RENOB

Phalanx 01-07-2007 06:40 PM

Careful now, the boyfriend's around...:rolleyes:

Spallalala 01-07-2007 08:21 PM

Here..Let me add another name. Since im a nitpicker.


Ban Spec7ral


Do you feel special now.

Phalanx 01-07-2007 08:37 PM

As opposed to a renal asshole?
Idiot.

slayer666 01-08-2007 02:48 AM

If most of us ignored them, or at least stopped responding to their posts, I have a feeling they'd go away. I've never used the ignore function before, but I'm going to give it a try.

crabapple 01-08-2007 06:44 AM

I mentioned it before too, but if you just "actually" ignore them, just sort of tune them out, it's possible you'll stop caring, and you'll see their comments here and there but it won't affect you.

hammerfan 01-08-2007 06:47 AM

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Originally Posted by slayer666 (Post 530890)
If most of us ignored them, or at least stopped responding to their posts, I have a feeling they'd go away. I've never used the ignore function before, but I'm going to give it a try.

It works quite well. I have a few people on ignore.

Zero 01-08-2007 06:48 AM

well, i'm usually not in favor of banning people and generally just take Crabbie's line of ignoring people who are annoying.

that said, i will confess that i've been coming on less frequently in part because every thread on general forum is another stupid thread from renob or any interesting thread seems immediately hijacked. . . but no big stress to me either way

The_Return 01-08-2007 06:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Zero (Post 530952)
well, i'm usually not in favor of banning people and generally just take Crabbie's line of ignoring people who are annoying.

that said, i will confess that i've been coming on less frequently in part because every thread on general forum is another stupid thread from renob or any interesting thread seems immediately hijacked. . . but no big stress to me either way

But...but...but...but you cant leave for another 599 posts:(

ferretchucker 01-08-2007 06:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Renob (Post 526303)
Why are you people saying these horrible things about me? I haven't done anything wrong. I love this site.

Renob, I hold nothing against you. But when you first arrived it was almost certain you were bigloader so first impressions werent good. It seems that, whether on purpous or not, you stir things up and also, you are very annoying. Like I said, i hold nothing against you but these are the facts.

crabapple 01-08-2007 07:06 AM

I forgot to mention allllllllllllllllso, that some of these rather inappropriate comments are actually kind of funny in that they are so bizarre. Sure maybe it's whacky but sometimes I will see one of these things and just start laughing.

Miss Olivia 01-08-2007 09:37 AM

I've tried very hard to ignore the whole situation. It does make me spend less time here though, because you can only read so much stupidity before it starts stunting your brain function.

Honestly, BigLoader sucked royally and I hated his posts. Renob came along, and I'm almost positive it's the same guy, but he tried to behave for a while and now he's upset because of all the hostility directed towards him so he's showing out. Either that or he has a serious impulse control problem.

Either way, Renob, I would like to politely request that you please please PLEASE cut down on the penis fixation, okay? I've never once put a person on Ignore here, and I don't want to have to start now. You shouldn't make everyone on here miserable just to annoy a couple of people who were mean to you, because then you start turning the people who want the situation to end against you.

Zero 01-08-2007 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by The_Return (Post 530954)
But...but...but...but you cant leave for another 599 posts:(

trapped by my mathematical mentality - curses!!!

:D

stubbornforgey 01-08-2007 11:19 AM

em still not sure who has the wide ass.. :o

ferretchucker 01-08-2007 11:54 AM

let's get rid of all of these tossers with the power of boogie!!!



night feva night feverrrrrrrrrr, we know how to do ittt!

Angra 01-08-2007 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Renob (Post 531195)
For the last goddamn time.... What the fuck is all of this "bigloader" talk? Please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


It´s your evil twin brother.

Spallalala 01-08-2007 09:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crabapple (Post 530948)
I mentioned it before too, but if you just "actually" ignore them, just sort of tune them out, it's possible you'll stop caring, and you'll see their comments here and there but it won't affect you.

I tune out. Its just about seeing either penis penis penis or having some idiot insult me for no fucking reason. The name calling whatever. Been there done that. It just annoys me when its all about ignorance. Nothing more nothing less.

I have a laugh at most things thrown at me. I don't care. I read and see blah blah blah basically ahha.

X¤MurderDoll¤X 01-08-2007 09:25 PM

you should probably start insulting her. I mean she already thinks you do anyway, right?

Elvis_Christ 01-08-2007 11:02 PM

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