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Haunted 12-13-2006 02:06 PM

I believe in a love that is always worthwhile... the love of nature, and defense of Her creations. (Just got a call from Defenders of the Wildlife thanking me for my efforts to save wolves and so on. That totally brought me out of a funk:) ).

Finally, (metaphorically speaking, anyway) I believe in having the last word.

Despare 12-13-2006 02:39 PM

I believe that instead of living like it was your last day on Earth, we should live like it was our loved ones' last day.

stubbornforgey 12-13-2006 02:49 PM

I believe that swear words were invented by a woman

Haunted 12-13-2006 04:37 PM

I believe that the aforemade post is true.

bwind22 12-13-2006 10:38 PM

I believe that everyone should try magic mushrooms or peyote at least 1 time in their life.

I believe that marijuana should be 100% decriminalized.

I believe that people who complain about smokers need to shut the fuck up and mind their own business. I don't hear too many smokers walking around telling non-smokers that they are too fat for their own good or that they shouldn't drive SUVs.

I believe the entire American political system is completely fucked, almost beyond repair.

I believe the income tax should be abolished. It was created to rebuild the country after the Civil War. I'd say that mission has been accomplished now for some time so Uncle Sam can stop taking my fuckin' money any day now.

I believe macaroni & cheese to be a gift sent directly from heaven.

I believe Bruce Lee would utterly destroy an enraged chimp in a fight to the death.

I believe Barrack Obama will win the US presidency in 2008. (Or at least I hope so!!!!)

Phalanx 12-14-2006 12:35 AM

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I believe that everyone should try magic mushrooms or peyote at least 1 time in their life.
Have done once...pretty fun, but I wouldn't make it a regular thing, but yeah, it's an experience. I'd add Salvia Divinorum extract to this list.

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I believe that people who complain about smokers need to shut the fuck up and mind their own business. I don't hear too many smokers walking around telling non-smokers that they are too fat for their own good or that they shouldn't drive SUVs.
But then, the nonsmokers "habits" don't as directly effect the health of those around them, whereas smoking can. Actually, not ALL smoking, just smoking (I'm sure this sounds unfair, but hey) in public. When you look at it, it's essentially a drug habit that's been made acceptable at large because a lot of people do it, and the govt. ok's in on account of profits...I personally believe that as such, it should be kept to the home and/or away from those that don't have a choice but to breathe it in. A far comparison, but it's almost like if a junkie were to stick you with a needle, and you had no choice in the matter.
The car driving thing isn't really something you can blame the consumers for either, more the companies for not making more environmentally sound products.
That said, my only beef with smokers is that a lot of them are inconsiderate, and consider their "wants" the be all and end all, fuck everybody else. I've said this before, but if one more person lights up right in front of me when I'm exiting a train or bus, they're gonna be spat on. Why? At least they don't have to INHALE my dirty habit.
But, I should point out here that I'm all for smokers only clubs/locations, I think that it's only fair with the eventual banning of public smoking, that if people continue to smoke (which face it, it's not looking like stopping anytime soon, it's their choice), that they should have locations for just that, just as us non-smokers should also.
I think if there's a mutual respect of rights, and the smoker/nonsmoker makes decisions based only on their own health, it's not a big problem. But...it's a mutual respect that has a long way to go yet. EG - If you're a nonsmoker, don't walk into a location/residence primarily occupied by smokers, and complain about it (and no, I'm not referring to "in public in general"), just the same if you're a smoker, don't go into nonsmoking residences and locations, and complain that you can't smoke.

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I believe that marijuana should be 100% decriminalized.
Damn straight. We've been through the ol' alcohol/weed thing so many times here, and I still stand by the simplest of arguments - if alcohol is legal with all the health/personality/fatality related issues it causes, weed should be too.
That said, I also believe that everyone that smokes weed ought to at least TRY vaporisation, it's a cleaner, less smelly, healthier, and believe it or not, more effective method.

I believe that cheese is just about one of the greatest culinary inventions ever.

I believe more people should ride bikes/walk, and less people should drive cars. Not only will it help with the lifestyle in general, it helps the environment too...I mean, within reason...you're not gonna walk/ride for AGES, but if it's just to the local shops (as I've seen many a driver do), help yourself and the world, walk or ride it.

I believe that the first person to think eating a potato was a good idea, was a brave person, that made a very great discovery.

I believe that everyone ought to take a little time out of each day to excersize, even if it's just jogging on the spot, doing pushups or the like...as long as it gets your blood and oxygen flow going, it's more'n nothing.

I believe that (especially in this day and age...with all the bullshit you see and hear about) there should be some form of liscensing to have a child/children. There should be means testing, criminal background checks, and mandatory short courses on conflict resolution, anger management, and parenthood in general. It's becoming clear that over half the people that pop out kids these days are either irresponsible as all fuck, or don't have a clue what they're doing...being as that'll only effect the kids in the end, I think parenthood ought to be a privaledge, not a right.

bwind22 12-14-2006 12:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Phalanx (Post 521822)
But then, the nonsmokers "habits" don't as directly effect the health of those around them, whereas smoking can. Actually, not ALL smoking, just smoking (I'm sure this sounds unfair, but hey) in public. When you look at it, it's essentially a drug habit that's been made acceptable at large because a lot of people do it, and the govt. ok's in on account of profits...I personally believe that as such, it should be kept to the home and/or away from those that don't have a choice but to breathe it in. A far comparison, but it's almost like if a junkie were to stick you with a needle, and you had no choice in the matter.
The car driving thing isn't really something you can blame the consumers for either, more the companies for not making more environmentally sound products.
That said, my only beef with smokers is that a lot of them are inconsiderate, and consider their "wants" the be all and end all, fuck everybody else. I've said this before, but if one more person lights up right in front of me when I'm exiting a train or bus, they're gonna be spat on. Why? At least they don't have to INHALE my dirty habit.
But, I should point out here that I'm all for smokers only clubs/locations, I think that it's only fair with the eventual banning of public smoking, that if people continue to smoke (which face it, it's not looking like stopping anytime soon, it's their choice), that they should have locations for just that, just as us non-smokers should also.
I think if there's a mutual respect of rights, and the smoker/nonsmoker makes decisions based only on their own health, it's not a big problem. But...it's a mutual respect that has a long way to go yet. EG - If you're a nonsmoker, don't walk into a location/residence primarily occupied by smokers, and complain about it (and no, I'm not referring to "in public in general"), just the same if you're a smoker, don't go into nonsmoking residences and locations, and complain that you can't smoke.


If you blame the auto companys for making the air toxic and not the consumers that buy & drive SUVs (Which incidently, if people weren't buying, automakers would stop making), then how can you put the blame of smoking on the consumers that buy & smoke them, but not the companys that produce them? I don't follow the logic there...

Ford makes SUV - Consumer buys SUV - SUV pollutes air & bodies
Camel makes cigarettes - Consumer buys cigarettes - Cigarettes pollute air & bodies

Where's the difference?

How can you blame the manufacturer of 1, but not the other? Neither product is entirely good, but the people that use them like them. If your reasoning is that you have to breathe in the second hand smoke, then you obviously havent been to Los Angeles or New York because you also have to breathe in the polluted air. And that is all day, everyday not just someone lighting up when you get off the bus.

I agree that there should be smoking bars & non-smoking bars & clubs or whatever because those have a tendancy to basically fill with smoke to the point that it sometimes even bothers those of us that do smoke, so I can entirely understand non-smokers objecting to somone smoking next to them indoors in public. Outdoors or in the home though... That is what I have an issue with.

Phalanx 12-14-2006 01:36 AM

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If you blame the auto companys for making the air toxic and not the consumers that buy & drive SUVs (Which incidently, if people weren't buying, automakers would stop making), then how can you put the blame of smoking on the consumers that buy & smoke them, but not the companys that produce them? I don't follow the logic there..
Oh, I blame the companies and every entity that profits from it as WELL, but...I think a little more "blame" (if you wanna call it that, I wasn't really bringing vehicles into it myself) could go towards smokers than drivers in general, considering vehicles are used for transportation or could at least arguably be used to transport a family around, whereas smoking is for the sole benefit of the smoker, and has no real "use" other than the chemical dependance.
One is useful, the other, is not.
Both destroy the environment and bring health down...I personally ride my mountainbike most places, so the whole "car" thing doesn't effect me one way or another. However, the amount that nonsmokers come into DIRECT contact with smoke is damn near unavoidable.
To me, the whole outdoors vs indoors thing doesn't quite gel either, I mean, when you're indoors in an area that smoking is accepted as the done thing, someplace that a nonsmoker wouldn't be able to say shit, all good...but when you're outdoors, inevitably you'll be in the path of nonsmokers too, public being "neutral ground" for lack of a better term, they have as much right to not smoke there, as you have to smoke there...hence the complaints about their complaints in these circumstances just go around in circles, what it comes down to is choice...but, I think you have to acknowledge that if you DO smoke outdoors, you effect other people, whereas if it was confined indoors, you effect only those that CHOOSE to put themselves in that situation...because when you're in public, however bad the auto companies make our environment, and breathing air, however bad that is, you're still making it worse, which is why there will always be these complaints.
One party feels they have the right to smoke, the other feels they have the right to fresh air, as unpoluted or poluted as it may already be...but when you really consider the ONLY factors in this particular discussion, A vs B, essentially, as long as you can effect the health of others and not just your own, it's not really an argument that would redefine smoking as anything other than a selfish habit...
As for in the home, if you're a smoker, you're a smoker, and it'd take a damn impolite son of a bitch to come into your residence and demand you stop.

Phalanx 12-14-2006 01:54 AM

I believe that coffee is a source of good and evil both at the same time

stubbornforgey 12-14-2006 03:11 AM

I believe i can fly!!!

Haunted 12-14-2006 05:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Phalanx (Post 521832)
I believe that coffee is a source of good and evil both at the same time


Depends on the quality of coffee and whether it's pressed or not. If you don't have time to press it (bullshit) then wake up earlier.

My bad...sorry.

Editted for educational purposes.

I'll you what, though, I believe that people who don't live in the US and don't know the history (the ideals of Jefferson, Franklin, have read the Federalist Papers, and various other documents detailing the conditions of this country) don't really need to make blanket comments. Yeah, right now, we're not in a good position. However, we've voted most of the shit kicking assholes out of the House and Senate, and in 2008, the rest of those jackasses are going to be voted out of here. Goddess, I hope like hell Obama gets elected. I really do.

It's our current government situation that supports the major coporations, because those jokers, Bush, Cheney, you name it, have vested interest in large corps. because they get kickbacks, support, and are a part of those corporations. Bush is an oil tycoon, and that's why he doesn't give a fuck about gas prices. That's money in his pocket.

The war... No one except the idiots that are about to be rooted out are diggin' it. So, the US as a whole isn't truly fucked up, it's the shit heads that are attempting to rewrite the foundational principles of what the USA was founded upon. They've not been able to get that done, so yes, they want to fuck with everything else. Hopefully, in 2008, we'll have our say and bu-bye.

We're trying, it's the government that's not letting us, and we are more than tired of it. And it will change. It better, because our Constitution gives us the freedom to say, "You know what, fuck you, we're going to establish a new government based the founding principles that were set aside back in 1776, and the Christian is not invited."

Essentially, everyone should just have a few bong hits and shut up.

urgeok 12-14-2006 05:39 AM

i believe that instead of sitting on your ass to watch a reality show - you should just go out and live your own life.

The Flayed One 12-14-2006 06:00 AM

I believe that education should never stop, no matter how old you are.

I believe everyone should take a few hours a week to learn about something they know nothing about.

I believe that children shouldn't play with dead things.

I believe that the USA hurts itself more with its views on alcohol than it helps itself.

I believe we are fighting scientific & societal progress with cultural stigma.

I believe if cultural stigma wins, the human race is fucked.

I believe that when you truly can't help yourself, 90% of your aquaintences will mysteriously disappear.

I believe the 10% that don't are the only people worth your time.

I believe I could go for a beer right now.

I believe that there is a way, somehow, to physically live forever.

I believe if I could, I would never get bored.

Phalanx 12-14-2006 06:15 AM

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I believe that education should never stop, no matter how old you are.
I agree, especially on the cooking thing...even when I obtain my full qualification and any specialisation I choose, I'm always going to be on the lookout for anything that can teach me more, from additional courses, refreshers, to recipes taught by cooks, chefs, and people that are just good with food alike.
Of coure, you probably meant other things inclusive too, but for me, this is it^^

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I believe everyone should take a few hours a week to learn about something they know nothing about.
That there ties in nicely with the one I quoted above too...for me, I watch doco's more than anything...so I tend to pick up stuff. The news never hurts either...other than that, I tend to lean towards food/harvest/cooking/kitchen related subjects.

I believe that storms are the coolest form of natural entertainment ever...they inundate all of your senses at once...
^Made me think^
I believe that famiarity and exposure to certain phenomena in early childhood can really stick with you, like, for instance, one thing that I find most relaxing, and almost immediately puts me to sleep, is rain thundering down on a tin/metal roof, rain is pretty relaxing to me in itself, but the tin roof is like a sensory sleeping pill. As well as that, when it storms, I feel more at home than just about anywhere.
Of course, when I was a child, I spent the first five years of my life living on a R.A.A.F base...little house on the outside of the military area, in a relatively rural area, always rained, stormed frequently, and we had a tin roof.

I believe that that goats are cool. COOL!

stubbornforgey 12-14-2006 08:48 AM

I believe the children are our future :p

stygianwitch 12-14-2006 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by stubbornforgey (Post 521905)
I believe the children are our future :p

Teach them well and let them lead the way.... i believe there's a lot of truth in that

i believe in the power of dreams

i believe that one day we will travel among the stars

i believe there is life after death

i believe when the planet gets sick of the way the human race treats her she'll heal herself, and then we'll be fucked

i believe in belief, it doesn't matter what you believe in as long as you believe, belief can make it so

urgeok 12-14-2006 09:50 AM

i believe that peanut butter is a gift from the gods.


except i dont believe in gods.

Miss Olivia 12-14-2006 09:56 AM

I believe Colonel Mustard did it in the library with the candlestick.

The Flayed One 12-15-2006 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Miss Olivia (Post 521932)
I believe Colonel Mustard did it in the library with the candlestick.

Haha, you lose Death! It was Professor Plum!

knife_fight 12-15-2006 02:53 PM

this one may have been said, but I believe that everyone should spend a year working in foodservice and a year working in retail... just so everyone knows how much it sucks.

The Flayed One 12-15-2006 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by knife_fight (Post 522320)
this one may have been said, but I believe that everyone should spend a year working in foodservice and a year working in retail... just so everyone knows how much it sucks.

Sing it, brother. I think that this should almost be mandatory. Most people have no idea what kind of shit you put up with in serious customer service.

Haunted 12-15-2006 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by The Flayed One (Post 522323)
Sing it, brother. I think that this should almost be mandatory. Most people have no idea what kind of shit you put up with in serious customer service.

Can I get an "Amen!" I've done it too, and you can tell the people that haven't...like my mum's abominable friend who pitches a tantrum every fuckin' time we have to endure her company at a restaurant.

@ Miss Olivia and Flayed: Everybody knows that Mr. Green did it, in the hall, with the revolver.:rolleyes:

I believe in the strange power that puts old cherished (and forgotten) movies on HBO, for me to enjoy.

crabapple 12-15-2006 04:58 PM

I believe you should obey anyone whose head is smaller than a ping-pong ball.



I believe that robots are stealing my luggage.

Elvis_Christ 12-15-2006 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by knife_fight (Post 522320)
this one may have been said, but I believe that everyone should spend a year working in foodservice and a year working in retail... just so everyone knows how much it sucks.

I will never work in food service again! :mad:

The_Return 12-15-2006 07:32 PM

They said therell be snow at christmas
They said therell be peace on earth
But instead it just kept on raining
A veil of tears for the virgins birth
I remember one christmas morning
A winters light and a distant choir
And the peal of a bell and that christmas tree smell
And their eyes full of tinsel and fire

They sold me a dream of christmas
They sold me a silent night
And they told me a fairy story
till I believed in the israelite
And I believed in father christmas
And I looked at the sky with excited eyes
till I woke with a yawn in the first light of dawn
And I saw him and through his disguise

I wish you a hopeful christmas
I wish you a brave new year
All anguish pain and sadness
Leave your heart and let your road be clear
They said therell be snow at christmas
They said therell be peace on earth
Hallelujah noel be it heaven or hell
The christmas you get you deserve


if somebody beat me to this, sorry for making an idiot of myself...couldnt be bothered to go through the whole thread

bloodrayne 12-15-2006 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Miss Olivia (Post 521932)
I believe Colonel Mustard did it in the library with the candlestick.

I believe that would make Colonel Mustard's butt hurt

stubbornforgey 12-16-2006 04:56 AM

i believe that coke was made by the gods

Miss Olivia 12-16-2006 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by bloodrayne (Post 522391)
I believe that would make Colonel Mustard's butt hurt


I believe Colonel Mustard has probably had bigger.:p

Haunted 12-16-2006 12:09 PM

If you're American:
I believe that the establishment clause in the Constitution: "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof" works both ways. So, if people want to put a nativity scene, Christmas tree, a Menorah, a Kwanza Misumaa Saba, Standing Stones wreathed in evergreen with mistletoe, let 'em. People should shut the fuck up, because it's a time for jolly, holly, "and other things that end in 'olly."

If you're not American, I hope that you don't have to deal with this kind of bullshit every year, because I believe that at least somewhere people should have really real freedom from stupidity.

Despare 12-16-2006 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Haunted (Post 522541)
If you're American:
I believe that the establishment clause in the Constitution: "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof" works both ways. So, if people want to put a nativity scene, Christmas tree, a Menorah, a Kwanza Misumaa Saba, Standing Stones wreathed in evergreen with mistletoe, let 'em. People should shut the fuck up, because it's a time for jolly, holly, "and other things that end in 'olly."

If you're not American, I hope that you don't have to deal with this kind of bullshit every year, because I believe that at least somewhere people should have really real freedom from stupidity.

I agree, I put up a Christmas tree, a nativity scene, etc... and if somebody wants to put their stuff out let them! There's a house about 15 minutes away from me that I pass a lot and they leave their Halloween decor out all year. They dress it up of course; for Christmas they have a skeletal santa and some lights with a pumpkin elf... it's great! The guy's neighbors tried to have them legally taken down and they lost but damn, it shouldn't have even been an issue!

I believe in a thing called love.

I believe that if one more damn person can't figure out how to use this "double roundabout" (first one in the US) I'm going to direct my car into the side of theirs. Then, if I can still move, I will get out and limp my ass over to their car where I will yank them from it, grab their hand, and smack them with their own hand for as long as I can shouting, "Stop hitting yourself! Stop hitting yourself!".

The_Return 12-16-2006 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Despare (Post 522546)

I believe in a thing called love.

I believe you just got that damn song stuck in my head

Haunted 12-16-2006 04:25 PM

Which one, the Elvis song? It's funny because I had the Beatles' song, "Let it Be" stuck in my head the other day.

I believe that one day, while love isn't on my list, sex is, so I will have an orgasm. I will goddamnit!!!

knife_fight 12-16-2006 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Haunted (Post 522587)
Which one, the Elvis song?

I believe he means the Darkness song. I could be wrong.

Miss Olivia 12-16-2006 07:05 PM

I loved the Darkness when they first came out....just because of that one stupid insanely catchy song. It's like auditory crack.

The_Return 12-16-2006 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by knife_fight (Post 522594)
I believe he means the Darkness song. I could be wrong.

Thats the one

Despare 12-16-2006 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by knife_fight (Post 522594)
I believe he means the Darkness song. I could be wrong.

I believe that's the one I was going for.

I believe instead of trying to copy glory from the past we should strive to make previous failures into successes through change.

stubbornforgey 12-17-2006 02:33 AM

I believe that a person that is not afraid to cry
is stronger than a person who hides his emotions..
I can't remember why I believe this cos i heard this comment
on tonights movie..and somebody in my household spoke as the reason was being stated :o

urgeok 12-17-2006 04:02 AM

I believe that the world is dying. we are painting ourselves into a corner with our own greed. There is no greater evidence than to observe what the major corporations are doing to stay competative. Between automation in the workforce and company mergers we are going to eventually reduce the number of jobs too far which will result in poverty and lawlessness..

thats if we dont kill the environment first.

Phalanx 12-17-2006 05:44 AM

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I believe that the world is dying.
I reckon it has been since the industrial recolution...we've entered an age now where "we know better", but still (not all, but most) corporations make it difficult for any real changs for the better (at least environmentally) can be made. The dollar has too much sway over the masses.

I believe that rasberry and boysenberry make for an excellent dessert.

I believe that if everybody took a train/bus/bike to work/school...etc twice a week, instead of driving, HUGE improvements could be made to the environment, and air quality, if analysed on a year to year basis.

I believe that terrorism...just doesn't work...

I believe that dogs are generally far better companions than cats.

stubbornforgey 12-17-2006 08:31 AM

I believe the world is flat
and that we are brainwashed into thinking its round


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