Ah well. At least the thread got hijacked by a worthy cause this time, instead of teh buttsecks and teh whathaveyou.

BloodRayne, your right. I dont have a clue about what true satanism is, because it is everywhere and is everything.
My display of pornographic sessions is just an entry of
a form of what satanism is, Pleasure and the flesh has
many more forms but the delusion I was under in creating this post, was to show the basic creed of most organized and
un organized affilliates. Sex/Lack of Sex, and the meaning to
belong is how churches come together...Satanic, Christian,
and many other churches of different variations have all
formed there beliefs around those core genocides.

Still, I dont see any responses on how you would feel
about such a group or legion being apart of your town
or city or even coming from your home.

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Im not a stupid person. I want to be apart of the begining, in
a way that is organized. There is a new form arriving and soon
it will be in order.

People can and do participate in any activity that they choose here (as long as it's legal)...No one really cares...

As long as what someone else is doing doesn't adversely affect, or harm MY family in any way...It really doesn't matter what they're doing...Everyone is entitled to do their own thing...And to be perfectly honest, I really don't think we would even notice...

We do our thing...Everyone else does theirs...We all get along just fine :)

I'm sick of the stereotypes that get pasted upon me whenever somebody discovers I'm a Christian. If you don't want to believe in God, if you choose to worship Satan or Gaia or whoever then fine. It seems almost as if not being a Christian goes hand in hand with being an indefatigable detractor of Christianity.

BuuuuurrrrrriiiiiiiitttoooES!

This is not exactly true. Sure, SOME participate in a black mass type situation but it seems that all most all of the time those involved don't really follow the pagan/wiccan path, (there are exceptions of course). In fact just about every pagan or wiccan I've ever met prefers not to participate in any "mass", they would rather practice by themselves without all the wasted candles that a group (coven) situation would have. Thats the beauty of it, they can choose to be solitary, and most do.


As for this one I say: who cares? And as they say in that song from back in the day "It's your thing, do what you want to do."

Don't take it personally, Sweetheart....Not ALL Christians (or anyone else) are the same...YOU are definitely NOT like the ones that give Christians a bad name in general...If you WERE, you wouldn't even be at this forum...I know that you know what kind of people are being referred to when others express distaste for 'some Christians'....My baby girl is a Christian...She does NOT do the things that the 'bad ones' do

I'm in a hurry (gotta cook), so I hope this made senseTrue...I didn't mean to make my post seem 'all-inclusive'...I should have said, "SOME Pagans/Wiccans include ceremonies like Black Masses (although, none that I know personally)"....I apologize if I offended anyone...It wasn't intentional....THIS time :p

I'm going to butt in on this thread, sorry if I upset anyone!

Rayne, did you get my email last week?

you used the statement True Satanists...knowing the posers do other things..

i'm using True Christian in the same sense. Christianity is all about choices .. a True Christian knows that there is no help - it's all up to them to make the right choices while on earth.

Thats a wonderful ideal way to live,but not everyone is like that.
I did sterotype Christians as being burnbellies, or stake drivers.
but after reading despare's comment, I see a side of christianity
that I, because of the easily depicted notion of christians,lost
reality with. That, some christians dont care, It's a choice to follow
your own path, but, There'd be mass hysteria in some area's.
especially with the levels of members..Everyone is different,
I almost feel like association in this matter would only demise
my path.

I'm not really offended I just don't understand people having the innability to simply let others live their lives. Every group of every kind has their bad apples, people just need to realize this and be able to live with it. Hell... I don't like some Christians but I also don't like some Atheists, Buddhists, Mormans, etc...

There is only ONE true religion.






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AMEN BROTHER!


High Priest Budwise:
Hail BEER!

every belief system in the world would probably just fine if not for the people who follow them. they all basically say the same things (with the exception of the fringe weirdo shit)
Problem is - it's human nature to twist and bend these things to suit their own purposes .. fueled by greed or some other misguided notion. when it's a religious leader - and it usually is - that is the one doing the major bending and twisting .. thats when the shit hits the fan and once again some belief structure is made to look worse than the others ... but each and every single one has had it's unpleasant day.... thanks to it's members.

Most modern Satanists are atheistic. They do not believe in or worship any specific deity, Satan or otherwise. Instead, they honor what they consider the spirit of Satan. Modern Satanists tend to follow what they believe are the ideals of Satan, and present him as an ideal whose traits are to be emulated. Satan is often represented as a symbol of resistance to dominant religious traditions (e.g., Christian, Jewish, Buddhist, Hindu). Some examples of organizations that follow this practice are the Church of Satan, the First Church of Satan, and the Temple of Set. This form of Satanism is generally referred to as “philosophical Satanism.”

While they are in the minority, some modern Satanists are theistic. They believe in Satan as a real entity. The Order of Nine Angels, for example, believes that Satan, as well as other “dark forces,” are individual entities beyond human control. Members of this group strive to become “one” with these sinister beings, and seek “to create new, more highly evolved individuals” through the practice of what they call “traditional Satanism” (Long 1994). This form of Satanism is generally referred to as “religious Satanism.”

Not my words but a pretty good definiton of such.

Religion is your own and noones business.

to each his own. If it doesn't affect me, why should I care?

I love myth in all its forms. As an ex-Catholic I have an especially tawdry attraction to the idea of Satanism.

But mostly it makes me giggle.

Someone missed something in their Satanic studies....Tsk tsk... LeVey used to head the "church" with a cat named Michael Aquino (no not the army dude- I don't think). They split, because Aquino wanted to go further than LeVey, and he did.

Michael Aquino formed The Temple of Set, which is "Satanic" in the sense that Pagan is pagan (Pagan=anything that isn't Christian... although that's not the technical definition). It's Satanic because it's bad. It takes the philosophy of devoloping personal power and ambition. It also teaches a sort of dark form of Hermetic sorcerey. They devote themselves not so much to the God Set, but to the idea of Set, who in the ancient Egyptian panthean, was the god of the desert, destruction, and things like that. He also, as you know, murdered and dismembered his brother Osirus.

They try to attain this state (?) ideaology(?) of xepher (kepher) which means "coming into being" or "I have come into being." (If any of these folks would have read Kant, they might have the true notion of transcendentalism and realized that someone had already cornered the market there).

@Skoof- Pantheism rules! Ah, but there are two definitions for pantheism 1.The Goddess is in everything (Thus making Her everything, thus Nature) and 2. There's always room for everyone's beliefs, provided they don't try to push them on me and that includes atheism.

Organized religion sucks ass, thus I quit training to become a High Priestess, and am not in a coven.

Believe me, I love to debate religion. I do. However, take it's totally and completely useless whether you're debating with a devout Catholic or a devout Atheist. It's totally useless. Furthermore... look at what's going on right now.

Lets take a lesson from little Witch Heather, let's take our own little beliefs and keep them in our little hearts, and talk about them ONLY among friends (we seem to be doing well here. No one's pulled out an uzi), and when holidays come we keep our little beliefs in the privacy of our own little homes so no one is offended, thus ending religious tension.

Because... Ultimately, it's between the individual and in Whomever or not they believe. For those that don't believe, what did Polonius say to Laertes (pretty sure it was Polonius to Laertes in Hamlet)? "To thine own self be true."




...I'm pretty damn sure P said that to L.... almost positive... doesn't matter, still holds... "To thine own self be true.

There every one is happy. We each have a positive.

I dont have anything to add, I just wanted to mention something:

I took a break from homework to hang around here for awhile, a decided to read this thread. I can say, beyind the shadow of a doubt, that I've learned more in these for pages than I ever could from an essay on Galileo Galilei:rolleyes:

Thank you:)

Stanism rules.

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Although, now that I think about it, Polonius may have said it to Ophelia.

Great song


Boards on the window
Mail by the door
Why would anybody leave so quickly for?
Ophelia
Where have you gone?

The old neighborhood just ain't the same
Nobody knows just what became of
Ophelia
where have you gone

Was it somethin' that somebody said?
Mama, you know we broke the rules
Was somebody up against the law?
Honey, you know that I'd die for you

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now whats a form of satanism i can get behind !


or in front,

or from the side ..

or hanging from a ceiling fan at 1200 rpm wearing a chicken suit and flinging lime jellow at a naked lion tamer.

If I...
 

may ask, why do people think people kill because of video games, movies and music that is so dumb anyone elses thoughts?

lol
 

how cute u are DJ. but im serious they really blame innocent people for there crimes how retarded.


STAY ALIVE DONT DIE

Re: lol
 

It is a result of the perpetual need to not own up to anything. think of it this way:

Violent media is an easy target. kids are exposed to it, and even though there are warnings and ratings, people STILL let their kids have it. Soeven though the parents are now responsible, the blame can not possibly lay with the companies that produce it, they are easy targets. They are faceless and have deep pockets, so they are the bad guy. Never mind that many of the companies that produce the games arent making money hand over fist.

Plus, this way, the parents can try to point the finger at someone else, rather than having to admit that they suck and probably should not have reproduced in the first place.


Probably the worst offenders here are the blowhards in the government that scream at the top of their lungs that our society is collapsing because of Doom , GTA and the occasional slasher flick. Its a great, easy way to make a name for yourself as a politician, which is why they have been doing it for what, almost 100 years now? They cant get down on liquor too much. They tried getting rid of that 80 years ago and actually increased the number of people getting killed.

Why arent they screaming about child predators? Education? Jobs? Oh, well they do, just not as much. less glamour in real problems. Plus, they usually scream about shit they know NOTHING about. I saw a senator on tv back in the early 90s complaining about a certain cartoon on MTV and how it was destroying our country (like the popular media has THAT level of influence. they wish)... He called it "Beavy and Butthole". Had never seen even a clip from it, but had heard they swore and set things on fire.

the worst part of Satanism, is that they are more than willing to 'get 'em while they're young'