i dont think they always know when something is going to happen though - but they know the people that know the people ...
hard to pull them in without a reason ... and thats the shame of it

i've been saying this for the past several years.
the fucking dinosaurs existed on earth for 150 million years !!
we havent been here for a speck of that time and have already fucked things up - irreversibly ..

We arent content just to die out - we're determined to take the entire planet with us ..

Can anybody say Iran?



I do, I do! Pick me!

Here's a little something for our friends in Britain...It's by a "real American hero" that speaks for all of us. I'm talking about.........
Mojo Nixon!

So...Ladies and Gentlemen...without further adue, the song that got many of us through 9/11..... "You Can't Kill Me."

You can't kill me

I will not die

Not now not ever

No never

I'm gonna live a long, long time

My soul raves on forever

Time has come

We will not wait

We storm the gates at dawn

Busting out of here

Into the world

Sing our victory song

You can't kill me

I will not die

Not now not ever

No never

I'm gonna live a long, long time

My soul raves on forever

I stand alone

Out on the road

I know flesh will rot

But the renegade and crazy free

Will not forgot

You can't kill me

I will not die

Not now not ever

No never

I'm gonna live a long, long time

My soul raves on forever

You can shoot my body full of holes

but you can't kill the spirit of rock 'n roll

never heard it.

Alright bwind22, please explain to the class...:D

As much as I'd love to blame it on France for losing the Olympic bid, I know that's not going to fly.
I'm going to drop my political tirade I had just typed since it's not the time or place for it. I hope anyone here on Horror and their loved ones in the UK are safe and unharmed. Pull up a barstool. We and Spain are buying. :(
CK

Of course not....You're Canadian. I'm not saying that's a bad thing. Be proud of your nationality. What I mean is that Mojo is more of a Southern USA phenomenon. I mean: Elvis is Everywhere and Big Rigs and Barbeque, aren't traditional fair anywhere else.:D

I wish all our resources had been focused on al-Qaeda.

My thoughts, prayers and sympathies go out to everyone whose lives were affected by this. This angers and saddens me more than I can say.

I keep clicking of this thread thinking of posting something on it, but, I can't think of anything to say.

Nice to see y'all ok UK'ers.

I've called all my family and they're fine.

Take care y'all

ash x

For fuck's sake. Like that's going to solve anything. :mad:

E_C has a point in all honesty. Do we keep ourselves on the side of right by becoming what we hate and fear?

If not, then what is the solution? I really honestly don't see how preaching peace and goodwill is going to do any good. These folks seem oblivious to compassion and kindness.

So now what? I mean, in England you get the same sentiment that we had over in the States: Oh hell no! I know you didn't just blow up something in MY country! How should we respond? Are our leaders doing enough? Can we as citizens help without this becoming another Witch-Hunt/Inquisition?

I just don't know.

there arent too many ways to deal with cancer.
all of them involve elimination one way or another.

i for one dont want to be a victim (or my family especially) - ever - as i go about my day to day routine ..
I wouldnt be a very forgiving person.

How do you deal with these animals?They have absolutely NO regard for human life.

Seeing that this is a horror movie site....lets put it in that context.

Listen. And understand. That terminator is out there. It can't be bargained with. It can't be reasoned with. It doesn't feel pity, or remorse, or fear. And it absolutely will not stop, ever, until you are dead.

Of course we will substitute terminator for terrorist.Our countries Intelligence MUST find out who these cells are and ,using urgeok's word, VANISH them.

Now that British soil and London has been attacked...security will be upped and there'll be no hiding place for these people.... our Security Intel (MI5) will find these people and their colaborators.

Hide? They DON'T hide!
The fuckers are KNOWN. Look at that hook handed son of a bitch? Preached extremist crap for years on the streets of London!
He's only under arrest now because the Americans wanted him!
And even then we stick up for the scum by telling the Americans we don't want the death penalty!

And what about that other Islamic guy recently...We had to let him go as well, and people moaned about how it would be against his civil rights (HA!) to place him under house arrest.
The Judge stated he was VERY DANGEROUS and was Bin Ladin's Lt. in Europe!!!!
And the sack of shit was STILL walking the streets of London!
The same London these scum just blew up!!

They don't hide they stand up proud and laugh in our faces whilst they attack our freedoms while using those same freedoms to protect themselves!

A few nasty car 'accidents' would do nicely as far as hese guys are concerned!

They don't know who all of them are, in this country and the next. It's events like this that make triggers for the intel, to 'actually' increase their efforts into hunting these groups down...it should be on a pre-preventative scale and not this way round after the attacks have happened.

As for the known targets, such as Hook, and yes human rights will always get in the way when it's just 'Preaching'.... freedom of speach and all that. Why do you think government rushed through the new law regarding Preaching attacks etc that have a negative effect on this country... Hook wasn't arrested just because of US demands. He was detained primarily after the law that took the extremist off of the streets. It was known he had links with terrorism, but it wasn't confirmed untill being detained, as to the extent of what he had been and what he was up to.

This is all I realy want to say on the matter....I don't want yesterdays events to be a catalist for a heated debate.

I started this thread to let all of you over there know that we're thinking of you and hoping that you're all safe.

it was really appreciated taylorsmommy :)

it wasn't directed at you ( what I said in previous post). I'd much prefer this thread to stay the way you intended :)

Not to worry, dear, I didn't take it that way.:)
Just kind of wanted to get it back on track

maybe . because they know it won't work?

put it all down to political correctness & open immigration.

I had so much more ranting to do on this subject of terror.

But by the request of the originator of the thread, I will only say this...

Thanks be to the Gods that the people we know and love are safe.

I'm wondering how many people in this forum actually believe in God, as other threads would indicate a lot of aetheism or even (mock?) satanism instead.

Or are we just fine weather Christians?

The Prime Minister wasted little time in announcing Muslim terrorists as the perpetrators, as they are of course responsible for anything and everything these days.

"Al-Qaeda" is being readily flung about again, though this is more realistically a movement rather than the super-secret bunch of evil terrorist geniuses spearheaded by the mysterious Bin Laden that newspaper editors would have us believe (and protect us from) - more of an ideology than a real organisation.

Global Terror (TM) is upon us, but don't panic -
George \/\/ will save us all.

I believe in God

My thoughts and prayers are with the people of London.

EXTR3MIST:
Well it would only be the Irish or the Muslims who would do it...and it ain't the Irish anymore!
So........


And if you are a Satanist then you HAVE to believe in God...they are the same religion!


I am a Christian as i was baptised in the Church of England (if we have to have religions, it's a shame they are not all as wimpy as that one), but i'm not a practising one and all forms of organised religion are trouble.

The worst offenders being hardline efforts like Islam, Catholicism and the Baptists.
ALL are oppressive and prejudical and get away with saying things no one else would by hiding behind books of fantasy and the supernatural with no proof that anything is anymore true than Fairies or the moon being made out of cheese.

Yet extremists beliefs are bred from these hardline religions and thus we have the crap we have to live with such as the London bomb...acts that hide behind 'the book of (whichever) God we belief in, ' so that we have to supposedly show understanding for the poor oppressed shitheads that do such acts.
Flush the whole lot of it I say.

Jumping to such conclusions is dangerous and breeds mass hysteria about certain groups/races/religions (inciting instant hatred, which may not subside even when the truth comes out).

The perpetrators could just have easily been Fathers For Justice, the ALF or Outrage!, but because we now know that extremist Muslims blow themselves up then "Al Qaeda" must be the first port of call.

And lo- the carnage looks like it was down to this, so there we go... but the Prime Minister and co. were rather quick (i.e. within hours) to make this announcement from a presumtion.

Believing in God is one thing, but one would assume a practising Satanist to swing the other way, as it were, and wish not love and prayers to victims but hatred and tyrannical laughter instead.

Or is it all just about heavy metal and funny makeup?

Really? is that right. Oh.

what are you babbling about? IT WAS Islamic terrorists! Like everyone knew and said it was! So what is your point?
Exactly...no point.
It was quickly announced as who it was because not everyone is as slow or blind as you.


And check the news.....50 odd MUSLIMS killed and 80 odd MUSLIMS injured in a huge bomb in Iraq...A bomb set by MUSLIMS.
Not Americans, not Brits...MUSLIMS.
Muslims atatcking a fledgling democracy that 60% of the people (despite facing possible death) voted for!

Check out the fact that the supposed shocked an surprised Uncle of one of the London bombing scumbags has now shown his true views. Defending the guy, saying he was NOT a terrorist and blaming THE UK.
Blaming the West for picking on poor Muslims.
NICELY FORGETTING that 9/11 happened before Iraq or anything else!
Forgetting that Saddam spent years killing Muslims when he ran Iraq.
And not bothering with the fact that it is ONLY MUSLIMS who are blowing up Muslim men, women and children in Iraq!

And the fact that one of the other bombers (in a family and community who are supposedly so surprised at what he has done! Yeah right!) PRAISED 9/11 when it happened and said everyone in it deserved to die, predicted that Muslims would attack the UK and two days before blowing himself up he shaved off most of his beard...text book for a Muslim 'fighter' preparing for battle!
AND he phoned his Sister to tell her to leave as they would alll be hated.

And yet all these poor so called moderate communities played at nothing but shock, surprise and innocence to the TV cameras! And all these people mentioned above are supposed to be moderate Muslims! Which says it all.

And where have you any proof of any kind at all that Fathers for Justice etc would have done this? Nowhere.

FACT ...tell these terrorists they are not Muslim and they won't agree.
FACT ...tell these terrorists they are not on an Islamic cause and they won't agree.
FACT ..they don't see killing people as against the teachings of Islam (a far from tollerent, prejudical religion anyway...like Catholicism) as they see it as Jihad. A Holy Islamic act that IS justified as it is seen as righteous.
FACT ...hiding behind a religion is a supposed validation of acts NO ONE ELSE would ever have excuses for.
And people like you fall for it!

Wake up.

Don't get yer beard in a knot - each apparent terrorist attack must be judged on its own circumstances and it is the duty of our leaders not to nurture unease about certain groups by making early declarations about who must be responsible (this is the job of the newspapers).

The train of thought that if groups have blown stuff up before then they must be doing it now, and that if groups haven't blown anything up before then they can't be doing it now, is too presumptious and it is surely dangerous to jump to early conclusions over such sensitive matters when xenophobia and racial hatred needs only the merest of sparks to ignite.

Your "FACTS!" could be closing your mind.

Here we go again.....lets hope this is not a weekly occurrence. I don't want to have to post in this thread anymore.

Can you give us more info, newb? I just got a news alert from my local news station that there are more "incidents".

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4703777.stm

From what I've heard, someone ran onto a train, dropped a bag and ran away. Lots of smoke and popping sounds.
Could be a dud, could be gas of some kind.
Nobody caught.
Watch/surf BBC or SKY news for further info. No casualties yet.

Just In: Potentially a "nail bomb"

I don't have all the details ......something about more bombings at underground stations and a bus.

Again, BBC or SKY news.

Last I heard Not being treated as a major incident by S.Yard YET.
Some vehicle windows and storewindows apparently blown out, a device thought to be on a bus nearby also.
It MAY have only been a detonator, so they are proceeding with caution, this may get worse.

Numerous unconfirmed reports of nailbombs continue.
Perhaps shooting.

Thanks, guys. My local news station has a live feed going, but with being at work I can't sit here and watch it. I'll try to pick in on it from time to time (when the boss isn't looking!). You're in my prayers!

Latest heard here:
Armed police converge on a London university hospital (where a lot of the people injured in the initial attacks 2 weeks ago are still recovering), potentially tracking the person that ran from the site.

Evacuations of all surrounding areas underway.
Fear of mobile phone signals detonating unexploded bombs.

Military on standby.