No way man! This is our year!

We are buffing up our defense big time right now and letting go of Moss freed up a ton of room for more salaries. I don't think they are done making moves yet and I'm already liking the way this season's shaping up.

Mark my words.... This will be the year of the Vikings.

P.S. Last year was great. I don't even acare that we didn't win it all. I was just overjoyed that we beat Brett Favre and his fudgePackers sorry asses at Lambeau and knocked them out of the playoffs. A Super Bowl win would have been secondary to that anyways...

ok screw it, Beauty Shop is going to flop(hey that rhymed) anyway...

The Vikings are nothing without Randy Moss, It's been awhile so I'm not completely sure but I think they were 6-1 then Moss got hurt and they sucked as a matter of fact they sucked with him just a whole lot less. I can't even keep track of how many games they would've loss if Moss didn't catch a 70 yard touchdown over 3 guys. Point is they suck.

As for the Packers they're better than the Vikings they were last year and they will be this year. Favre threw two interceptions that Javon Walker and Donald Driver ran the wrong routes on and once again Moss did all the damage, Favre is better than Culpepper-Green is infinately better than any of their backs I could go on but I think you get the picture. You're saying it's their year, I say they wont even make the playoffs.
Packers,Falcons,Eagles,Panthers,Rams.

I ecspect the Saints and Seahawks to have thier acts together next year but if they don't the Vikings may be able to slip in but once again I doubt it.

To everyone else, sorry about all the Football talk It's over now.

This is true but if Stallone made a spin off about his son and advertised it right then it would have the same appeal as Rocky.

I'm sorry, is Ice Cube in Beauty Shop? Because that's the only way that analogy would hold any water. Stallone made Rocky popular so if he made a new one, then it might sell. You're right about that part. But Queen Latifah did not make the Barber Shop movies (She wasn't even really a main character.) So the analogy is flawed.

The fact that it's a spinoff of a popular movie doesn't mean anything. Daredevil opened to $40 million it's first weekend. It's spinoff, Elektra, opened to $12. (Despite the fact that comic book movies were and are wildly popular at the moment kinda like Diary of a Mad Black Woman is right now. Hmm...)

Anyways, we shall see what happens. And when I'm right, I will be back to gloat. ;)

P.S. There is no doubt that Randy Moss is one of the best receivers in the NFL, but he also brings a LOT of negative baggage to a team (And a hefty price tag.) Whether it's walking off the field with time on the clock, walking off the line of scrimmage when the play isn't coming to him, mooning the Green Bay fans (That was awesome!) or pushing a parking cop around Minneapolis with the front of his car, he is a problem. The Vikings are going to be better off without him.

As far as the Packers... Favre's pill-popping ass has another year (two) at best. Ahman Green may have been better than any running backs on the Vikes at the high point of his career, but he is injury prone and aging now. The Vikes have good young backs that would be on the verge of becoming superstars if we could just get rid of our injury prone guy, Michael Bennett. Mewelde Moore is awesome and he's only in his second year. Watching him carry is like watching a young Barry Sanders. And Onterrio Smith is like greased lightning when he gets a hole. The problem is that we have a total dumbass for a coach and he fails to see that he should have got rid of Bennett too while he was cleaning house.

Our defense has already improved by about 100% in the off-season. I'm just looking for us to pick up 1 more receiver this season. (We've got Oakland's #1 draft pick now so maybe we'll draft one.)

P.S. When I say it's "our year", don't take it too seriously. I am a die-hard fan and I say that every year no matter how we are looking.

P.S.S. Hating the Packers is in my blood, don't take offense.

Hating the Vikings and Bears is in my blood.

Moss is one of the best recievers in the league is an understatment, he is the best and saying the Vikings will be better off without him is like saying the Oilers would've been better off without Gretzky.

I could careless about Favre popping pills, I don't know if he still does it or not but it's really irrelivent he's still Brett Favre there isnt' anybody else in the NFL who analist look at and say his team has a chance simply because they have him(if you don't believe me do the research they've said it every year since '95). I can't believe the nerve you have to tell me about my analogies then actually allow yourself to compare Moore to Barry Sanders that's the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard. Mike Tice is a good coach he just makes bad decisions sometimes which all coaches do. Ahman Green is 28 running backs don't start to wear until 30 and Curtis Martin and Emmit Smith proved that not to be altogether true.


Mewelde Moore is like watching Barry Sanders?:confused: I'm going to pretend I didn't hear that, sure they have the same style but the same effect I don't think so. LBs have the same style Ray Nitsky did but they aren't as good,QBs have the same style Marino did but they aren't as good get my drift?

p.s.
saying that their D is 100% improved isn't saying alot

As for the Sin City vs. Beauty Shop thing just forget about it you misunderstood the last thing I said about it but it doesn't matter. I want Sin City to do well I'm going to see it Friday or Saturday night myself.

Moss is THE best when he's trying. Which is only about 50% of the time. The other 50% he stands there like a lazy millionaire that doesn't feel like running a route if the pass isn't going to him. Let me clarify this, I have always liked Randy. He's great for entertainment value, but when you have someone who thinks and acts like they are superior to everyone else on the field, that does not help your team. Randy is all about "me, me, me." (or "him, him, him" as the case me be.) Oakland will find that out soon enough, but he will actually probably fit in pretty well over there with those rowdies.

But you are right. It's hard to say the Vikes will be better off without him. I should have said that I don't think his departure will really hurt us that badly because along with the negative of losing the best active receiver in football, there comes a nice handful of positives. (Which I have already mentioned earlier.) That would have been closer to what I was actually trying to say.

Of course the analysts have been saying it for 10 years. Any time Favre plays on national tv, they are swinging from his jockstrap from kickoff to game's end like he is God's gift to football. :rolleyes: That's nothing new. I think John Madden would turn gay in an instant if Favre wanted a piece.

As for Moore to Sanders... Obviously Mewelde Moore isn't anywhere near Barry Sanders in terms of greatness, but Moore's only going into his third year and hasn't really been given a chance to shine. All I was saying is that at this early stage in his career he has already shown very explosive potential. Sizewise, speedwise, and the potential for explosive plays equals me saying he is as exciting to watch as a young Barry Sanders because they are both very exciting to watch. Too bad Moore doesn't get the time. I really think he could be a star. Oh well, I suppose Bennett will get hurt by Week 4 and then he'll get his chance to shine again. So to clarify, Moore is no Sanders in terms of greatness, but he is just as exciting to watch and with proper coaching could be one of the greats.

Mike Tice is the worst coach in the league when it comes to the simplest coaching basics... He throws bad challenges constantly and his clock managment skills are the worst I've seen! I never liked Denny Green because he was strictly a 'by-the-numbers' kind of coach and didn't ever seem to play with his heart. Well, Tice plays with his heart, but he's just a dumbfuck and does it stupidly. We had Tony Dungy in our system and let him get away to keep Denny Green. :rolleyes:

P.S. Your Oilers-Gretzky analogy made me laugh.

P.S.S. Are you from Wisconsin or something? What's with your love of the Packers?

We shouldn't have hijacked this thread. This was one of the good ones. (But we should go and randomly hijack some newbies thread and carry on this football discussion there. What do ya say?)


Okay, as for this thread....


back on topic again...

Sin City looks really good.... (Way better than Beauty Shop. :p )

Yo STE! We've hit a minor snag in our bet. Beauty Shop opens 2 days before Sin City and I just found that out. Considering it will have almost twice as much time , that doesn't exactly seem like a straight wager anymore. lol

good idea

hmm I like the movies to that Robert Rodriguez guy...gonna give this a chance

Oh. Well, that does complicate things a bit.


Anyways, I was NEVER saying Beautey Shop would do great at the box office. #1 spot because black comedies draw, followed by horrible word of mouth because the movie is gonna suck ass, it'll drop of really quick. But, unfortunately, there's more of an audience for Beautey Shop than for Sin City.

We shall see...

P.S. I'm glad to find out/realize that you aren't actually a supporter of Beauty Shop and that you think it will drop off right away. I was beginning to question your taste in film... ;)

What? Fuck Beautey Shop. I didn't care much for Barbershop 2, and I can't fucking STAND Latifah. But people go to see black comedies and Queen Latifah can draw. It sucks, in a perfect world, Beautey Shop would BOMB, and Sin City would be #1 until Star Wars comes out

...and Queen Latifah would be dead.

Well, in a perfect world, the following people would be dead:

Rob Black
Invader III (Jose Gonzales)
Rev. Fred Phelps
Mike Donavin

We can't erase time, Sam.., remember that.

...But we CAN kill people...

Right. I'll kill my four, you kill the Queen

your going to need help.

who? Me? Yeah, you're probably right. Especially with Invader III and Rob Black

This is easily gonna be the best comic/sci-fi movie all year. I can't believe how close it actually resembles the comics, it's unbelievable how much detail is in just the trailer scenes. I have to see this the day it comes out.

that's a bold thing to say considering that there's 9 months left after it's release.

I can disprove that with 2 words:
Batman Begins

agreed, no way Sin City is going to out do Batman

I am reserving judgement until I see them both but I certainly am not ruling it out. Sin City is driected by the creator of the comic books and that gives it an edge over any other comic movie to date in my mind.

Like I said though, I'm reserving judgment.

I'll make a guess and say Sin City will be better than Batman Begins, it seems more unique... something new.

That and I like me my Jessica Alba.:D

I think the combination of the new "style" of this movie, the fact that the person behind the comic AND a director that makes pretty decent action films are both involved, not to mention a pretty good cast, will make this the better film in the longrun.

That's not to say Batman won't get a bigger audience, or that it won't itself be a great film...but I'm pretty sure I'm gonna be slightly more impressed with sin city.
I'm really looking foward to BOTH of them...with these two, and the fantastic 4 movie coming out, seems this is going to be a pretty good year for the ol' comic type films...

I'm not expecting much from that F4 movie though. It looks kinda lame to me so I have low expectations. If it is good, I'll just be pleasently surprised.

ditto.

AND jessica alba as sue storm... ugh.

In terms of F4 I'm expecting, more or less, a cartoon...something completely and deliberately over the top, this COULD work either way of course...so yeah, I'm not going in expecting to take anything too seriously.
I can only hope it's more worthwhile than the Hulk movie was.

Yeah Hulk was terrible. I wasn't too crazy for Daredevil or The Punisher either. So far the only Marvel comics they've gotten right have been X-Men and Spider-Man.

I'm not saying it'll be a better movie you can't say that until you've seen both of 'em what I'm saying(which also isn't a completely sure thing YET) is that it'll do better at the box office.

Hmmm.... We'll see about that one. I think a good percent of the public (myself included) has a bad taste in their mouth that is still lingering after seeing the last 2 Batman's. I know this one will be better but I wonder if everyone will reailze that or if some have already given up on this franchise...

wtf
 

What a very odd casting.

This one is marketed totally different than the previous 2, or even 3 Batmans. No one-liners, totally noirish/epic (two things that usually don't go well together), and the poster has no faces on it. Though the cast is way better, they haven't listed any of them, they haven't really named any of the villains in the commercials, with only brief glimpses of Scarecrow. The trailers seem more like Batman 1 than any of the ones after it, only a lot moreso.

I might be drunk but...
it the dude from big fish as batman or reign of fire, or was that the same guy
and that chck from dawson's creek as the love intrest.

Christian Bale is Batman and yeah I think Katie Holmes is in it.

Christian Bale wasn't in Big Fish, that was Billy Crudup

the cast contains:
Christian Bale
Michael Caine
Liam Neeson
Morgan Freeman
Gary Oldman
Ken Watanabe
Katie Holmes
Cillian Murphy
Tom Wilkinson
Rutger Hauer
Emma Lockhart


I dunno 'bout you, but that's a fucking fantastic cast. Better than George Clooney, Ah-nold, and Chris O'Donnel. Okay, I like Clooney, but he was a shit Batman

Agreed, much better cast, O'Donnel was horrible imo as for Clooney he's a real good acter but Batman wasn't for him. I still don't know why they didn't bring Kilmer back I thought he did a good job.

Sin City got 3.5 out of 4 stars in the USA Today newspaper. Nice.... Now to see how it performs at the box office. Even with a two day head start, I wouldn't be all that surprised to see it beat Beauty Shop.