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SauxVage 10-23-2004 10:20 PM

First things first....The Matrix series was phenominal....The perfect trilogy (my opinion)....As far as "Saw" is concerned.....I agree it might be the scariest movie made in quite some time.....this is by far, for me the most anticipated horror flick made in the last year or so. Lions Gate is probably the king of the hill when it comes to horror movies. They have had some doozies in this genre and seems like they are on a roll to keep that title. I have read that they are coming out with five horror movies next year---an unheard of feat in the movie industry.




~The Vampyre~

Pumpkin Head 10-24-2004 08:53 AM

I can't see where anyone has written what they through of Saw? I thought it was great! I'm easily scared but it was well scary!

I thought it was a little like Seven but it was really clever I thought! You'd never guess who the killer was... although I did think that (I can't remember his name) the guy from Robin Hood Men in Tights shouldn't have been cast in that part his acting through some of it was laughable. In fact me and my friend left the cinema laughing at the last few words his said before the end of the film (I won't give it away in case people haven't seen it).

I'm sorry if someone has already post this somewhere else, please don't swear at me! I'm sensitive! :rolleyes:

Sistinas 10-24-2004 08:57 AM

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Originally posted by Pumpkin Head
I'm sorry if someone has already post this somewhere else, please don't swear at me! I'm sensitive! :rolleyes:


Fuck you.LOL, no i'm sorry, I couldn't help it.I really want to see this movie.

GorePhobia 10-29-2004 04:19 PM

I just got back from seeing Saw and I was impressed.

**SPOILERS**

The movie starts with Adam played by Leigh Whannell waking up in a dirty disgusting bath tub. He is in the dark and not aware of where he is. Then the lights come on and he is all of a sudden in a disgustingly dirty bathroom with someone else. The man he is with is Doctor Lawrence Gordon played by Cary Elwes. The are both chained to pipes and not aware of how they got there.

The film goes indepth of a killer named Jigsaw. He makes people kill eachother because they are hateful of their pretty decent lives. After clues are found the two men try to figure everything out. The do flash backs of other characters like Detective David Tapp played by the man himself Danny Glover and Dr. Gordon's wife Alison played by Monica Potter.

This film is pretty wacked on a few levels....Not alot of blood but some sweet scenes of someone getting their guts rippped out and someone sawing their own foot off. Also a nice throat slash. The greatest invention ever by the way is the reverse bear trap lol. Overall the acting is kind of dull. Cary Elwes is kind of a cry baby and Leigh Whannell needs some lessons. Danny Glover did a great job as a detective again, reminiscant of 'Lethal Weapon.' All in all this is a great thriller that will keep you guessing over and over. This is film is not like Se7en. Se7en is far supperior but this is a good movie nontheless.

I give it a 3 1/2 skulls out of 5.

I,ZOMBIE 10-29-2004 08:33 PM

SAAWWWWWW!!!!!!
 
i was told to watch this movie so i will.
on the se7en note: i was wearing my seven tshirt the other day at work and i met some guy who was involved with the script! i like how brad pitt always plays crazy people (seven, fight club, 12 monkeys, etc.). i heard saw was worth my time

Heretic_Ideals 10-29-2004 10:37 PM

Just watched "Saw"
 
I didnt find it to be very scary or scary at all for that matter but it did have some kick ass kill scenes i wouldnt call them gory just clever......it was more of a psychological thriller then a horror flick but all in all it was a pretty good movie. What did those of you who have seen it think?

Hate_Breeder 10-29-2004 10:40 PM

Damn i want to see this movie so bad..........so bad! And from what ive heard or have been hearing it sounds better than im expecting it to be so....

friday13thfan 10-30-2004 10:15 AM

it comes out on halloween whyere i live

Hate_Breeder 10-30-2004 10:24 AM

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Originally posted by friday13thfan
it comes out on halloween whyere i live

Same here

Arioch 10-30-2004 11:42 AM

My brother called me to tell me about it last night...

Apparently there is a Deus Ex Machina ending that is worse than Donnie Darko's which is saying something....

I myself am workin on a download...

kpropain 10-30-2004 11:44 AM

I haven't seen it yet but am anxious to...I plan on going to see it Monday after work....

megalomaniac 10-30-2004 05:39 PM

SAW looks ok but i might wait to see it on video

Sedated_replica 10-30-2004 08:50 PM

Re: Just watched "Saw"
 
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Originally posted by Heretic_Ideals
I didnt find it to be very scary or scary at all for that matter but it did have some kick ass kill scenes i wouldnt call them gory just clever......it was more of a psychological thriller then a horror flick but all in all it was a pretty good movie. What did those of you who have seen it think?
If "saw" didn't creep you alittle out, then seriously what will?? I thought it was twisted and pretty good

I,ZOMBIE 10-30-2004 09:10 PM

saw
 
hey I liked Donnie Darko! that bunny suit was way cool, i wish i could have died before bad things happened to people i care about because of me (i.e. the engine crashing into donnie bed)... *hopes a jet engine crushes me in my sleep* no, really i heard saw was a good movie, but i presume it is a psychological thriller more than a horror movie. the guy with the axe, gun, or knife doesnn't scare me. i'm just scared that i have been that guy (because i have)

DraculaInDallas 10-30-2004 10:27 PM

Re: Just watched "Saw"
 
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Originally posted by Heretic_Ideals
I didnt find it to be very scary or scary at all for that matter but it did have some kick ass kill scenes i wouldnt call them gory just clever......it was more of a psychological thriller then a horror flick but all in all it was a pretty good movie. What did those of you who have seen it think?
Just saw it (pun intended) and I have to agree with you H_I, it definitely wasn't scary but it was a clever story line. It was slow in some instances but had some good scenes as well. I thought it was a hell of alot more entertaining than Grudge......well that's just my 2 cents worth......:)

KRUGERKID13 10-31-2004 12:53 PM

good film very original

TheGrudgeSucks 11-01-2004 04:48 AM

Pretty good flick. Of course, it doesn't live up to its advertising...but, what movie does? I mean, they bill it as being the next Se7en or Silence of the Lambs. But, I personally didn't think it was quite disturbing enough to be ranked with those films. Maybe SOTL, but certainly not Se7en.

The first and second acts are great. Different, freaky, weird, creepy, all that good stuff. The third act, however, kinda of falls apart a little bit. I remember sitting in the seat thinking to myself, "Oh no...don't go this way. I really liked you up to now, please don't screw it up with a crappy ending." Luckily, it takes an unexpected turn and rolls into a pretty cool ending. So, that made it all worthwhile.

My only other gripe was Elwes' performance. It's a little weak. He's decent, but there are some parts I found myself rolling my eyes at the acting (or lack there of). He just wasn't a good choice as the leading man. As a supporting role, he's more than adequate. But, he can't carry a movie himself. They should've looked a little harder.

Other than those points, it's a pretty good film and worth a watch. Hell, I'll probably buy the DVD just to see all the "crap" they cut out to get the R rating.

JDMX 11-01-2004 09:34 AM

First, ha, seems like every other person on these forums is an asshole. People need to calm the fuck down and just casually talk and have a good time.

Now onto my opinion on Saw:

I wouldn't call the movie "scary" as far as jolts are concerned but I think the word unsettling suits it well. Everything made sense, everything was explained but at the same time not too much was told to ruin the movie. The entire theatre was quiet and enraptured in the movie and only a few giggles were heard towards the end. Excellant considering our audience. They'll laugh at anything to show off in front of their friends.

I will say the killer's character in the movie is fantastic. His "murders" have more creative obligation like qualities rather than artistic and sadistic self gratifying qualities like most killers that make you almost develop a respect for his "work". They were ingenously created and well crafted to get his point across without actually killing anyone himself.

Too tired to go on anymore but I gave this movie an A rating. It's a movie to borrow $8 and call-in to work tonight for.

Stingy Jack 11-02-2004 03:04 AM

I saw Saw Saturday evening, and I was quite disappointed. A few of the kill scenes are cool and disturbing, but the acting sucked all around, and the entire plot hinges on the motivation of a particular character (Zep), who makes some choices that nobody would make given his options. In that regards, the plot is quite flimsy ... and what's up with the jigsaw puzzle piece? That looked to have been added at the last second just to give the killer a name ... because they certainly didn't do anything else with it. Still, the film is mildly entertaining, and may stick with you if you don't think about it too much when it's over.

C-

TheGrudgeSucks 11-02-2004 05:35 AM

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what's up with the jigsaw puzzle piece? That looked to have been added at the last second just to give the killer a name
I was wondering that myself. I thought we were gonna see a "flesh puzzle" later on in the film or something. But, no. It was just a useless subplot piece to "freak" us out more.

JDMX 11-02-2004 09:13 AM

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Originally posted by TheGrudgeSucks
I was wondering that myself. I thought we were gonna see a "flesh puzzle" later on in the film or something. But, no. It was just a useless subplot piece to "freak" us out more.
There will be a sequel so I'm sure more about it will be explained then. I'm sure it's not useless but I agree I didn't fit it in with the rest movie yet.

GorePhobia 11-02-2004 11:17 AM

i forgot about the puzzle piece untill now.....hopefully if they make a sequal they make it with some sort of flesh jigsaw puzzle

gren 11-07-2004 06:33 PM

ok i have 2 questions

1)the guy that was got burnt to death, what was the deal with him again? (the reason wh he was picked in the first place)

2)had this discussion with gore but i dunno if i can believe him LOL. but Zepf (the male nurse) why was he picked? just cuz he worked closely with Gordon or what? just seemed out of character to just RANDOMLY pick someone, when they didnt have some reason

Gern Branston 11-07-2004 09:13 PM

I don't remember tham giving any reasoning for several of the murders, not just the burn victim. It seems like they just sort of dropped that plot idea halfway through.

While I did enjoy parts of SAW, I think a good half of it was totally extraneous; if you take the first 15 minutes, add the last 10, and chop out everything in between, you'd have a heck of a good short film.

JDMX 11-07-2004 09:31 PM

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Originally posted by Gern Branston
I don't remember tham giving any reasoning for several of the murders, not just the burn victim. It seems like they just sort of dropped that plot idea halfway through.

While I did enjoy parts of SAW, I think a good half of it was totally extraneous; if you take the first 15 minutes, add the last 10, and chop out everything in between, you'd have a heck of a good short film.

They gave reasons for all of them. The fat guy in the cage cut himself for attention, the chick with the jaw thing was a drug user, the guy on fire played sick to get out of work all the time, etc

The thing I didn't get was his biggest thing was how people didn't appreciate life and took advantage of people and he used innocent people to make his points to his victims. Seems hypocritical. I could be missing something though.

The STE 11-07-2004 11:24 PM

I watched it off a download, so the VQ wasn't as good, so I might have missed it, but what jigsaw puzzle piece?



It was good, could've been great, Jigsaw wishes he were John Doe

gren 11-08-2004 01:28 PM

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Originally posted by JDMX
They gave reasons for all of them. The fat guy in the cage cut himself for attention, the chick with the jaw thing was a drug user, the guy on fire played sick to get out of work all the time, etc

The thing I didn't get was his biggest thing was how people didn't appreciate life and took advantage of people and he used innocent people to make his points to his victims. Seems hypocritical. I could be missing something though.

ohhh ok the playing sick thing, now i remember

as for the innocents thing. i think the point was that when people try and take advantage, usually innocents fall prey (eg commit suicide, ur family has to live with it or driving drunk, normally the drunk lives wihle innocents die)

but i still dont remmeber why he used ZEPP (the nurse.) at least for the ones he DIRECTLY attacked (as in, gave objectives to) he seemed that he wanted them to all be idiots. So i just didnt catch what his fault was.

Sedated_replica 11-09-2004 01:14 PM

The plot doesn't make much sense, at the end. you're right. But why pick on a drug user?? and if I had to cut open a guy to survive, you better believe when I got home I'd whip up the BIGGEST spoon of Herion, the world has seen. Since Kurt Cobain , Sid Vicious and John Lennon were alive. :D

gren 11-09-2004 02:54 PM

i actually liked the plot and drug user thing

at least in her cas she seemed to be an addict, not just plain 1 a month user. addicts are idiats....

JDMX 11-09-2004 04:11 PM

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and if I had to cut open a guy to survive, you better believe when I got home I'd whip up the BIGGEST spoon of Herion, the world has seen.
haha

MichaelMyers 11-09-2004 05:03 PM

It would be really cool to see Jigsaw catch up to the doctor, drag him back into the room by his nub, and tell Adam that this is his only chance to get out of the room, and have Adam do something to the doctor. Unlikely though, considering Adam saw Jigsaw's face.

massacre man 11-09-2004 05:08 PM

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Originally posted by Stingy Jack
I saw Saw Saturday evening, and I was quite disappointed. A few of the kill scenes are cool and disturbing, but the acting sucked all around, and the entire plot hinges on the motivation of a particular character (Zep), who makes some choices that nobody would make given his options. In that regards, the plot is quite flimsy ... and what's up with the jigsaw puzzle piece? That looked to have been added at the last second just to give the killer a name ... because they certainly didn't do anything else with it. Still, the film is mildly entertaining, and may stick with you if you don't think about it too much when it's over.

C-

to link his kills together

The STE 11-09-2004 05:11 PM

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Originally posted by Sedated_replica
Since Kurt Cobain , Sid Vicious and John Lennon were alive. :D
maybe I'm an idiot, but I don't see the connection with them and the movie

urgeok 11-09-2004 05:49 PM

for some reason i cant get geared for this movie .. i have absolutely no desire to see it whatsoever ...

is it worth it ?

it just seems like an extreme version of that 'Marry Screw or Kill' game

Sedated_replica 11-09-2004 08:33 PM

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Originally posted by gren
i actually liked the plot and drug user thing

at least in her cas she seemed to be an addict, not just plain 1 a month user. addicts are idiats....

addicts are idiats huh?

Sedated_replica 11-09-2004 08:35 PM

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Originally posted by The STE
maybe I'm an idiot, but I don't see the connection with them and the movie
Did you even read the post?

gren 11-09-2004 08:50 PM

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Originally posted by MichaelMyers
It would be really cool to see Jigsaw catch up to the doctor, drag him back into the room by his nub, and tell Adam that this is his only chance to get out of the room, and have Adam do something to the doctor. Unlikely though, considering Adam saw Jigsaw's face.
isnt jigsaw the dolll????????

maybe a new chuckie vs jigsaw movie!

Heretic_Ideals 11-10-2004 12:58 PM

The dolls just like a puppet he uses to speak for him he's not a character really or any of that shit

IDrinkYourBlood 11-14-2004 09:46 PM

All in all most of us were just dissapointed in this movie i presume, with its plot holes and bad acting (i mean really you'd think that the hospital would relieze that the dude was actually alive and not dead from whatever the desies he was dieing of)
but yet this movie could be appriceated for its attempt in taking horror in a different direction and staying away from that scream era of movies (curse you 1990's). Will there be a sequel, probably not. Is that a good thing, probably. Givin the sercumstanses of the dissapointment from the hype and the good quallities, and the bad ones. I'm giving this a 3 out of 5.

bwind22 11-20-2004 03:51 AM

Alright I saw this movie, but I didn't take the time to read through this whole thread. Please firgive me if my comments have already been mentioned...

I thought this movie started pretty cool and ended pretty cool, but there were way too many parts where I found myself asking 'Well, why wouldn't he just do this? The main one I can think of right now is when the blond Doctor guy couldn't quite reach his phone, but insteading of using his shirt to bring it in (as he had already instructed the other guy to do earlier), he uses his shirt as a turniquette and cuts his leg off. Brilliant.

And what was the point in showing us that he cuts jigsaw pieces out of his victims if they were never going to go back to that plot point for the rest of the movie?

All in all, I had really high hopes for this and wound up a bit disappointed. I'd give it a C-. (You know they're hurting for star power when the guy from Robin Hood:Men in Tights is the lead actor. Ouch.)


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