People have been killing people every since life has been created. You see horror in the streets everyday, this is why I say you cant blame horror movies/music BUT I will agree with mictlan that it can put evil things into unstable minds.. I also want to add this is a great thread and it is good to have mature conversation.. I have been reading some of the threads and they are uncalled for.. does anyone else agree..??

I completely agree with Ritualistic...it's great to have a conversation on this level with so many people. However, there are a couple threads I have encountered should be removed..or monitored...something to that degree.:)

im willing to bet my nuts im in at least half of them

the thread Im thinking about. you are in it but telling them to knock off the crap :D

Ritualistic is on to me I think, I created this monster to see the level of maturity on here, I think its great that you guys have the opinions that you do. Reading childish gibberish makes me want to do unspeakable acts of violence to young college cheerleaders. Thanks for all your input. I am hoping that there will be more of it.

i always do that...sometimes...

but anyways i think 100% of the posters iv seen in this tread so far have agreed that tv does not make people mad, is ther anyone who doesnt agree? there must be someone? step forward and talk...i wont hurt you..much

I am referring to a lot of the other threads that shouldnt even be posted. this is a horror forum NOT a argumentative,childish,stupidity forum..

true...true...but where the hell is the minority!? there must be someone here that thinks movies and games damages us?

If there is someone it is probably someone that thinks that they were damaged.. Ha Ha :D

Here's an update on that article in USAToday

i am enjoying this thread very much. i can remember back in the eighties when dungeons and dragons really started to get popular, me and my brother recieved it for christmas. my grandparents were very strict religious nuts. when they found out that we were having fun playing this game, they went ballistic. my parents didnt know what to do so they fell in line with their elders and they ended up having an "intervention". well they took all of our stuff and tried to "deprogram" us. it didnt work thankfully. but the thing that stuck out the most was a book they gave me called "ravaged by the new age". it was a crazy book that tried to make connections between the smurfs, mickey mouse, mighty mouse, and numerous other cartoons, books, games, and movies to satanic cults. it was wacked. im sorry i got off the subject, just thought id give a little first hand info. oh and by the way, when the shit goes down, get out of the city.

on double think
 

this whole thread is a perfect example of the concept of doublethink, a la 1984. It's funny that we all love horror and essentially watching people die onscreen, but real death isnt funny to us at all. Interesting. Welcome to the human race.

its kinda a diffrent when the person being whacked with an axe is on his knees begging you for mercy telling you he has children.
in the movies you know they dont die....usualy.

I don't know about doublethink...

Seeing horror movies can be enjoyable, seeing real horror is not. It's not hypocrisy... it's just that we who can enjoy horror without going crazy are able to accept or understand the difference between fiction and reality.

okay, I'll try to do my best to explain this the way I see it

you have 2 major groups of people nowadays the mentally stable, and the mentaly unstable

I'll first discuss the mentally stable
these people, like the most of us don't get really affected by violence in games, movies, music, it helps them, you know the feeling after a rough day at school or work, when you think, damn, wish I could beat up someone, smash a car, do something to release my anger. Well we do it in the form of movies, games and music. We release our anger, sterss, tension so we can let go of that hard day, forget our worries. if it wasn't for those games, movies and music we would become what they call the mentaly unstable

mentally unstable:
now, these people are in a certain degree kinde ****** up sort of speak. they sometimes can't tell the difference between real and fictional. The violence in games and movies can give them ideas, I must admit, I once played GTA allot, and made an mp3 radio station with a certain album in it, when I drove my real car with this album for the first time it kinda felt werid lol
BUT I knew it was wrong, I can imagine if you suffer from some mental conditions this could be leathal.

PLAIN AND SIMPLE I THINK THAT'S BULLSHIT.

Hee hee hee... similar experience. I spent way too much time last summer playing Vice City. Though it never made me run anyone over, the thought occured to me while I was driving more than it usually does.

Ignorant people blame movies and games and music,

What about the damn crooked polititians and law (judges that get caught rackatieering, cops caught selling crack)
And stupid shit like that.

What about loonies like the guy who Killed Laci Peterson.

Don't blame movies blame the true killer Pop Culture.

I think Pop Culture is decieving 'cuz it seems innocent, but can cause all kinds of pain.

damn!
 

damn, this has beena popular post!
But I think I've got this one in a nutshell....
In playing/watching games and movies that show violence, gore, bloodshed and criminal behaviour, we get to experience the things that in most cases we'd not actually do, or want to do, or may fantasise about doing, but don't follow up on, we all know this...
However, having already experienced this in the form of entertainment, I think it should in fact lessen the urge to go out and kill people...etc, I mean, why would you want to go out and do the same thing right after you've seen it (porno films being a slight exception) done over and over in a game or movie?

Just put this theory to anything but movies and games, here's mine....
"lets say you can, for some totally ficticious reason, eat nothing but pizza for six months (that sounds like a dream to even me, but I'm sure it's get old), then you're given a $20, and told to go out and buy yourself whatever you want to eat....the chances of you coming back with pizza would seem pretty slight, don't you think?"
See what I mean? My point is, we are predominately raised in a society where such things as murder, theft, and mutilation are pretty much frowned upon, and cause penalty. If you choose to ignore this, and your conscience allows for you to actually take part in such behaviour, you don't to use movies need movies or games as your excuse! Just plead insanity, and quit spoiling all that is good in entertainment for the rest of us!
PEACE - :p

I knew Laci Peterson, I live half an hour from the town she lived in, really sweet girl. The guy that killed her used to work at the mall as a security guard, he used his uniform from work when the whole thing went down.

really:eek:

how well did you know her?

music/ movies/ games have nothing at all to do w/ waht people do at all. its a mom buying a eminem cd for her kid and then he goes and does something stupid and then they blame him when well hey didn't u c the parental warning sticker thats is on the cd thanx to tipper gore and her buddies. movies and games also have ratings its just the parents don't give a shit.

my points here is and i do have one, is that horror movies and such don't make people do things its like saying the devil made me do it. people just ned a scape goat so they blmae things like that

how do you know all this information..???

my sister told me that she saw on t.v someone killed someone and the cops thought that the guy who loved horror movies was the killer .They Almost Arrested him but they found who was the real killer before.

:rolleyes:

they are dumbasses .. Guess if they walked into my house they would think I am a serial killer or something.. with all the shit I have ..:D

when all esle fails...blame the weirder guy

Horror films, tv, music, all of that, does not influence poeple. They mearly provide people with a scenerio. If they didn't have access to one thing, they would find another thing to mimic.

good point, there always has to be a scapegoat... if someone gets a little depressed and wack 90 people with an hk3 they cant blame the poor murderer. course not.