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horrifyou 07-13-2016 05:53 AM

Just stop, please
 
Hellraiser 1 and 2 are sacred. Period. Anything after that is not only an insane drop off but suffers from the diminishing return principle (not necessarily on money but surely on enjoyment). Ok, I'll admit 4 did have some concepts I like but that is all you'll get out of me. Sadly, I doubt we will ever see a return to the glory days of 1 and 2. The less said about 'cd head' the better!

Dante
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TheBossInTheWall 07-13-2016 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by horrifyou (Post 1015333)
Hellraiser 1 and 2 are sacred. Period. Anything after that is not only an insane drop off but suffers from the diminishing return principle (not necessarily on money but surely on enjoyment). Ok, I'll admit 4 did have some concepts I like but that is all you'll get out of me. Sadly, I doubt we will ever see a return to the glory days of 1 and 2. The less said about 'cd head' the better!
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Its been a while, but I liked Deader. Probably my third favorite in the series.

horrifyou 07-14-2016 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by TheBossInTheWall (Post 1015351)
Its been a while, but I liked Deader. Probably my third favorite in the series.

Too much focus on the dead loving cult and not enough Cenobite! Actually, the more I think about it, the movies past #4 could probably stand on their own as decent/passable (horror/suspense/thriller) movies WITHOUT the Cenobites and therefore without the Hellraiser name.

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satanah 08-07-2016 07:38 PM

First and second are two of my favorite horror movies, the second one especially. I don't even remember III, and after almost leaving the theater in the middle of IV (Bloodline), I never watched another one again.

Tired of cash-in sequels and remakes, that's for damned sure. Just. Stop.

TheBossInTheWall 08-07-2016 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by satanah (Post 1015937)
First and second are two of my favorite horror movies, the second one especially. I don't even remember III, and after almost leaving the theater in the middle of IV (Bloodline), I never watched another one again.

Tired of cash-in sequels and remakes, that's for damned sure. Just. Stop.

Generally yes, but as I said above Deader was good. I suggest at least giving it a try.

satanah 08-07-2016 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by TheBossInTheWall (Post 1015942)
Generally yes, but as I said above Deader was good. I suggest at least giving it a try.

Alright I'll give it a shot. :)

anglewitch 08-24-2016 09:02 PM

There is something so blasphemous about remaking such a classic.

Jake.Ashworth 08-25-2016 05:07 AM

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There is something so blasphemous about remaking such a classic.

Technically its not a remake... Judgement is a kind of reboot of the entire system. Initially the third movie was written without Pinhead, but the script was changed out of fear of losing the fan base. I met the "new" pinhead at Frightmare this last year. He was literally just walking around handing out business cards. I took one from him and watched him walk away, then I looked at it... It literally says "Paul T. Taylor: Pinhead" Its a fucking business card for Pinhead. I freaked and caught up to him, we talked for almost an hour. He is passionate and loves the new drift for the movie. In case you weren't aware there is very little pinhead and it instead rests more on the values of the rest of the Cenobites. He helped to convince me that this is an excellent addition to the franchise. I'm in, and I am a die hard hellraiser fan. His card has stayed in my wallet since.

Roiffalo 08-29-2016 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Jake.Ashworth (Post 1017117)
Technically its not a remake... Judgement is a kind of reboot of the entire system. Initially the third movie was written without Pinhead, but the script was changed out of fear of losing the fan base. I met the "new" pinhead at Frightmare this last year. He was literally just walking around handing out business cards. I took one from him and watched him walk away, then I looked at it... It literally says "Paul T. Taylor: Pinhead" Its a fucking business card for Pinhead. I freaked and caught up to him, we talked for almost an hour. He is passionate and loves the new drift for the movie. In case you weren't aware there is very little pinhead and it instead rests more on the values of the rest of the Cenobites. He helped to convince me that this is an excellent addition to the franchise. I'm in, and I am a die hard hellraiser fan. His card has stayed in my wallet since.

I do love the man's enthusiasm for the character. I admire it even. It gives me hope for the new movie, but I'm still going in with low expectations just to be safe.

As long as the minimal Pinhead appearances are for important and dramatic scenes, it could work. I mean he is the figurehead of the cenobites, his presence should demand fear and respect by all who see him, so that would make for an awesome climax scene.

Jake.Ashworth 08-30-2016 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Roiffalo (Post 1017443)
I do love the man's enthusiasm for the character. I admire it even. It gives me hope for the new movie, but I'm still going in with low expectations just to be safe.

As long as the minimal Pinhead appearances are for important and dramatic scenes, it could work. I mean he is the figurehead of the cenobites, his presence should demand fear and respect by all who see him, so that would make for an awesome climax scene.


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Have you read The Scarlet Gospels? It goes so deep into the underworld, its beautiful. It also makes it clear that he is really just one of many in an order of cenobites. Not really a leader, more of an outcast searching for his place.


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