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Elvis_Christ 03-06-2011 02:21 PM

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siorai:
The other reason could very well be the hardcore illegality of them. You couldn't just stumble upon something like this. You would really have to know people who trust you implicitly to find out about this. It's not like you go to a party and happen to meet a coke dealer who's willing to upfront tell you he's a coke dealer and immediately sell you some.

I tend to agree this but surely if there were any someone would've slipped up and been busted just like in the case of child pornography.

....that's already been mentioned but just thought I'd back that point up.

Ferox13 03-06-2011 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Elvis_Christ (Post 887749)
I tend to agree this but surely if there were any someone would've slipped up and been busted just like in the case of child pornography.

....that's already been mentioned but just thought I'd back that point up.

And to expand on my point - it doesn't need to be someone who made the movies just any one who was in the loop who wanted to make a deal with the cops.

Elvis - Do you have that copy of Fatal Visions with the article about Henry and Otis where they claim to be making films for the 'Hand of Death'?

Elvis_Christ 03-06-2011 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Ferox13 (Post 887750)
Elvis - Do you have that copy of Fatal Visions with the article about Henry and Otis where they claim to be making films for the 'Hand of Death'?

Nope. I've ones with Mad Dog MacKenna (he mentions The Hand Of Death), Gerad John "The Sex Beast" Schaefer. There's a interview with Betsy Blood that touches on snuff films.

Got one with a feature on Canberra director Damian Heffernan's version of Cthulha (round 1996) you might be interested in.

Sistinas666 03-06-2011 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Ferox13 (Post 887737)
I've seen a few Docs on the matter but few with any real insight but I've not seen that. I'll try find it..

So after seeing it what was your opinion?



I'm honestly not sure. I highly doubt it occurs as often as some people may think but I'm positive it has happened. Everyone in the movie says they have never seen or heard of one(mostly horror/porn type directors) but there is no doubt in my mind it has happened.

BookZombie 03-06-2011 10:56 PM

Well it is a matter of fact that snuff turn some people on, and I would say that if where is something that turn people on there is a good chance there exist films of it. It is also a matter of fact that some disturbed individuals have murdered others for the sexual pleasure that give them. I have no doubt that there exists video of people being murdered during sexual acts, however I seriously doubt you will find these movies in the horror section of the video store, such movies would be locked up in the police evidence lockers, or at best (or worst) in the hands of sick individuals who would not just spread it all over the place as they know they will then be arrested.

Ferox13 03-07-2011 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by BookZombie (Post 887775)
such movies would be locked up in the police evidence lockers

No Snuff movie has ever been discovered by a Law enforcement agency.



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Originally Posted by Elvis_Christ (Post 887754)
Nope. I've ones with Mad Dog MacKenna (he mentions The Hand Of Death), Gerad John "The Sex Beast" Schaefer. There's a interview with Betsy Blood that touches on snuff films.

Got one with a feature on Canberra director Damian Heffernan's version of Cthulha (round 1996) you might be interested in.

Cool I might get you hang onto those for me..I read Schaefer's book after reading about him in FV and its fucking nuts...

I've that Cthulhu film - despite being zero budget and a hodge podge of stories I kinda liked it..

Elvis_Christ 03-07-2011 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Ferox13 (Post 887781)
Cool I might get you hang onto those for me..I read Schaefer's book after reading about him in FV and its fucking nuts...

Sure there all yours man.

neverending 03-07-2011 12:47 AM

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No Snuff movie has ever been discovered by a Law enforcement agency.
Well, that's what they SAY...

Perhaps one... or more than one HAS been discovered, but they're keeping it under wraps... because the world seems a safer place if it's believed no such thing exists...

THE TRUTH IS OUT THERE!

Fearonsarms 03-07-2011 01:52 AM

Kudos to ferox13 and siorai for their open discussion on this on that other thread and I should have started a seperate thread about this issue instead of starting it in the worst movie thread. It is very interesting to read people's views on this. Can I just reiterate the discussion that watching horror movies=killing people for real is an entirely different argument one I never advocated as any horror fan knows this is as (wickerfan puts it) "hogwash"

Elvis_Christ 03-07-2011 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by neverending (Post 887784)
Well, that's what they SAY...

Perhaps one... or more than one HAS been discovered, but they're keeping it under wraps... because the world seems a safer place if it's believed no such thing exists...

THE TRUTH IS OUT THERE!

Could be possible. There's a lot of sick fucks out there who are very rich and powerful. I guess we'll have to wait till some poor widower discovers dubious 8mm film in her deceased husband's vault ;)


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