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neverending 08-04-2010 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by William666 (Post 869292)
Sorry neverending, but I disagree. Horror fans were saying the same things back in the 50's, and 60's, and 70's....... in 20 years they will be saying the same then, praising the works of today. It's a cycle that is, well, neverending. ;)

Fortunately your blindness to the positive qualities of older films has no effect on their presence. Reducing an appreciation of classic cinema to "nostalgia" is shallow at best.

Monster Dave 08-09-2010 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by William666 (Post 869292)
Sorry neverending, but I disagree. Horror fans were saying the same things back in the 50's, and 60's, and 70's....... in 20 years they will be saying the same then, praising the works of today. It's a cycle that is, well, neverending. ;)

William that doesn't even make sense, were you around in the 50s? I dont know how long you have been a horror fan or how old you are, but I remember in the 70's and 80's having no complaints about the horror movies being released, overall for the most part I should say...

scouse mac 08-09-2010 11:50 PM

I found it difficult to translate but there are some valid points to that guys post however to just clean sweep away a decade of films is way too basic. There will always be a majority of films in any given period which are shit, the majority of films made in the 50s 60s 70s etc were crap but we remember the good/great ones (of which there were plenty).

Some of the problem these days is that its too easy to make a movie, anyone with a camcorder and some computer software can churn out a film and there is a lack of real effort involved. How can you compare something like Ray Harryhausens skeleton warriors to some of the poor cgi alot of filmmakers use today?


For what its worth, I quite liked Predators.

William666 08-18-2010 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by fiend_skull (Post 869296)
Well it doesn't quite work as easily as that. It is more of a process of weeding out. While I do agree that there are people who prefer old movies just because they are older, it is more a case of looking into the past with rose colored classes. As time goes on certain movies will stand the test of time and will be remember a lot better than the movies that seemed more lackluster and uninspiring.

That is a fact, however I'm speaking mainly of the people who disregard every new movie (especially the remakes) just because they are new. I remember a hell of alot of flack about the Rob Zombie Halloween remakes before they were ever made simply because it was "forbidden" to do such a thing. That is what I'm referring to. And just for the record, in my opinion, the Zombie remakes kicked the hell out of the originals, and at 44 years old that's coming from someone of the old order. ;)

William666 08-18-2010 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by neverending (Post 869308)
Fortunately your blindness to the positive qualities of older films has no effect on their presence. Reducing an appreciation of classic cinema to "nostalgia" is shallow at best.

I'm not dismissing anything, just pointing out that people who dismiss the new movies are the ones wearing blinders, but ok, whatever.

fuglystick 08-18-2010 11:41 AM

If it seems like there are a lot more bad movies today than, say, 40 years ago, it's because there are. But that's because there are a lot more movies being produced every year.

http://manyeyes.alphaworks.ibm.com/m...e-per-genre-wo

The data is apparently from IMDB.

40 years ago, a lot fewer movies were being made. That means the pool of scripts that passed muster was a lot smaller, and the quality of the average film was likely to be better than it is today with today's flooded market. That doesn't mean, however, that they aren't making good movies anymore. It just means that there are a dozen bad movies for every good one, instead of three or four.

But yeah, anyway, to argue all movies that come out anymore are shit is asinine.

William666 08-18-2010 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Monster Dave (Post 869898)
William that doesn't even make sense, were you around in the 50s? I dont know how long you have been a horror fan or how old you are, but I remember in the 70's and 80's having no complaints about the horror movies being released, overall for the most part I should say...

What doesn't make sense about it Dave? I am 44 years old, yes, I was around for the criticism of the 70's movies over the older ones and on up to today. I can also read and listen to older horror fans tell of the same crap happening decade after decade. It's nothing more than a generation gap and it's present in everything, not just horror movies. What doesn't make sense is to spout off with statements like "All the new stuff is shit." That statement itself is shit, and anyone who is ignorant enough to make such a statement can wear the idiots crown. Nothing is ever all encompassing. This is really an argument about taste. You prefer the old stuff to the new? Cool. I have no problem with that. But to say a film shouldn't be remade cuz it's "a classic" or to completely disregard all new movies is very ignorant I think.

Kleptron 08-18-2010 05:53 PM

I realize that no one cares about my opinion but a good movie is a good movie, I don't care when it was made......

William666 08-18-2010 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Kleptron (Post 870992)
I realize that no one cares about my opinion but a good movie is a good movie, I don't care when it was made......

Amen and thank you to that. ;)

fiend_skull 09-03-2010 05:44 PM

Time for another round of "It Came from Another Forum!!!"

This post's title was "What is the Point" and the message goes as follows: "Same stupid story line maybe a different location or maybe a few more/less actors. Same stupid fake blood, fake vomit, and other fake crap. Very simplistic and doesn't capture any human with a brain's attention. Why watch t.v.s and movies?"

Now, I jokingly responded with "Sure beats gargling cat piss". But seriously, any thoughts?


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