What exactly do you mean when you use the terms "lady" and "gentleman?"

Being treated equally should start with men not holding physicall prowess over women. I could punch out my wife everytime we disagree, but I don't because we are equal. That doesn't mean she's a damsel in distress. I find your argument more hurtful to women than helpful.

Someone with manners, well behaved.

How was I being hurtful to women? My point is that you should never hit a girl is bullshit. If some woman hits you unjustifiably, hit her back or push her or something. She obviously wants to fight you anyway, as in Ferret's story about the woman who hit the guy over the head with the bottle. That was totally unjustified. It's not a matter of her acting like a man; it's a matter of someone defending themself.

Assault is assault, whether it comes from man or woman. The actual logical thing to is call the cops. That way you don't get charged, but if you're in a rowdy mood and some asshole, be it man or woman starts trying to whale on your ass, it's totally wrong to let the woman get away with it just because she's a woman.

Oh, and that lady shit doesn't fly. It suggests a set of standards which we are to live up to. No way. I'm not a lady; I'm a woman. Well behaved my ass.

I'm old school and was brought up to never hit a woman.....but


Assault is assault, whether it comes from man or woman. The actual logical thing to is call the cops. That way you don't get charged, but if you're in a rowdy mood and some asshole, be it man or woman starts trying to whale on your ass, it's totally wrong to let the woman get away with it just because she's a woman.


I will agree with this statement.

But I would also try to seduce said woman with my charming ways first......if that didn't work then I would cold cock the bitch.


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Well Haunted, I don't dought you'd be willing to throw down with any man, but just because you're a woman who fights doesn't mean all women have to. Some women are actually proud to be more lady like, but that shouldn't disempower them in anyway. I think that by saying it's ok to hit a woman as an act of equality is harmful to women.
If you and I were the same size, and you started kicking my ass one day at FC's bar, I would do everything I possibley could to stop you without hitting you. I also wouldn't let another man hit you if I were just a witness to the situation. It has more to do with respect for the women in my life, my mother, my sister, my wife and the respect for those who taught me better than to hit a lady. I also don't hit little kids or animals, I'm pretty sure that isn't unfair, or is it?

If some 11 yr old came up and tried to fight me(28yrs), should I belt him too?

An 11 yr. old is a child, of course there's a difference. Their body hasn't finished growing. We're talking about adults. Now I don't advocate hitting elderly people. If some old woman hits you with her bag just because she doesn't like the way you look, you need to address her firmly but politely. Older people are delicate (except for Newb, of course).

I'm not trying to convince you to start throwing down with women. However, setting up standards for women to follow is bullshit, and many of us are tired of it. You can be classy and be woman. For instance I swear like a pirate, but I can be tactful if I want to, and I do it to please no one but myself. That's liberation.

I do.

Or at least messing up their hair and running away.

I think a kick to the ankle would do it...yknow, if I were being attacked with objects. If not, restraint shouldn't be impossible.

Yay, I started a debate!

I think that Haunted's feminist views are much better than the hypocritical ones that some throw around i.e. "We're equal, but you can't hit us because we're weak". It is very stereotypical.

And as for that study where only one person came to help the guy being hit, I think that shows that currently, however non sexist we may think we are, sexism is still there, even if it is just subconsciously.