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ShankS 04-21-2005 03:43 AM

"You can't see the eyes of the demon, until him come callin."

Vodstok 04-21-2005 04:16 AM

But that was an alien, not supernatural ;)

ShankS 04-21-2005 04:34 AM

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But that was an alien, not supernatural ;)
I know :) but I thought the quote was quite appropriate.

bwind22 04-21-2005 05:02 AM

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Originally posted by Vodstok
On the off chance that supernatural things DO exist, i believe there would be a scientific explanation.

Hell, I bet IF there is a God, there is a logical, scientific, quantitative explanation for him/it/her.

It just may be very complicated.

That being said, i absolutely love the supernatural, but remain skeptical in light of the fact that i have never seen any conclusive evidence. I've had my own weird experiences, but nothing conclusive.

I am basically of the same viewpoint as you with slight differences...

If any of that stuff exists, it is with scientific explanation. It is my opinion that if something can be explained logically (scientifically, mathematically, whatever...) then it isn't/wasn't ever supernatural to begin with. It was just something we didn't understand, but later grasped.

Too me, the supernatural is something unexplainably otherworldly. If an explanation can be offered of this world, that would negate it in my eyes.

AUSTIN316426808 04-21-2005 05:04 AM

I did then I didn't then I did now I guess you could say I'm skeptical, not skeptical as in the people who always try and prove it wrong but more in the way of could be could not be and I'm not sure.

Vodstok 04-21-2005 05:23 AM

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Originally posted by bwind22
I am basically of the same viewpoint as you with slight differences...

If any of that stuff exists, it is with scientific explanation. It is my opinion that if something can be explained logically (scientifically, mathematically, whatever...) then it isn't/wasn't ever supernatural to begin with. It was just something we didn't understand, but later grasped.

Too me, the supernatural is something unexplainably otherworldly. If an explanation can be offered of this world, that would negate it in my eyes.

I kind of agree with that. Look at the number of things that were "monsters" a long time ago, but are now just "animals" (elephants, whales, giant squid)

But i like the idea that some things are so far out there that even if they were emprically identified and categorized, they would still be "supernatural". I dont know if you are familiar with the game "Shadowrun", but it presented things perfectly. in it, magic and "monsters" have become an everydaypart of life on Earth, but some things are still supernatural, even though they have perfectly scientific explanations.

I think life is just more fun if we have magic and ghosts, even if magic turns out to be simple quantum physics and ghosts are just stored energy with a conciousness.

I'm hoping i am expressing that in an easy to understand way. it's a weird concept that is easily muddled in the explaining

meetthecreeper 04-21-2005 05:29 AM

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I'm with ya Urge.

Aliens, ghosts, voodoo, witches, etc...

I don't believe in any of that shit either. There's always a scientific explanation.

Witches exist, I am one.

Dont discount Voodoo either, it is a religion just like Wicca or Paganism to generalize.

As for everything else, its all natural to me.

newb 04-21-2005 05:35 AM

The only thing I would consider "supernatural" would be ghost. There are new species of animals discovered everyday so if Bigfoot became a reality it wouldn't totally surprise me.
Life on other planets wouldn't blow my mind.I don't think they would be of the cliched variety,i.e. big eyes, green skin, butt-probing, lazer shooting kind.
Vampires and werewolves....nah.
As far as ghost go ,seeing is believing....I haven't seen any yet.

StaggerLee 04-21-2005 05:41 AM

Oh sure, these days, I'm ready to believe almost anything. I used to live in a haunted house, and now I'm living in a apartment that is cursed for sure

AUSTIN316426808 04-21-2005 05:48 AM

As far as ''Scientific Explanations'' are concerned they're as solid as the things they are attepting to disprove.

for example this is one thing that there's always a scientific explanation for, whenever something is accused(for lack of a better word) of being alien material they do a test on it and as soon as they find one of the elements in it they dismiss it, but who's to say aliens wouldn't have some of if not all of the same elements as we do. All ufo/alien stories have one constant, they aren't from here and they arrived in ufos so what did they build it with? moon rocks? They're are elements on the moon and mars so why is it out of the question for alien material to have them as well?

and then there's God, some people say we evolved from apes which sounds completely ridiculous and as George Carlin put it others say ''there's an invisible man in the sky'' who made us out of dirt which also sounds completely ridiculous.

Some people say a huge proton and nuetron were traveling at light speed then crashed into each other and created the universe and everything in it, on the other hand some people say that ''the invisible man in the sky'' was sitting around by himself and just decided to do it, both of which sound completely ridiculous.

The point I'm trying to make with all this accessive typing is that NOTHING is for sure but death.


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