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newb 01-17-2005 09:14 AM

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Originally posted by Vodstok




Tons of dialogue that is completely extraneous to the plot. Did the "Like a virgin" conversation have any bearing on the rest of the movie in resevoir dogs? if it did, i missed that part.

I think his use of dialogue is what makes his movies stand out. Such as this now classic bit of conversation.

Vincent: Want some bacon?
Jules: No man, I don't eat pork.
Vincent: Are you Jewish?
Jules: Nah, I ain't Jewish, I just don't dig on swine, that's all.
Vincent: Why not?
Jules: Pigs are filthy animals. I don't eat filthy animals.
Vincent: Bacon tastes gooood. Pork chops taste gooood.
Jules: Hey, sewer rat may taste like pumpkin pie, but I'd never know 'cause I wouldn't eat the filthy motherfucker. Pigs sleep and root in shit. That's a filthy animal. I ain't eat nothin' that ain't got enough sense enough to disregard its own faeces.
Vincent: How about a dog? Dogs eats its own feces.
Jules: I don't eat dog either.
Vincent: Yeah, but do you consider a dog to be a filthy animal?
Jules: I wouldn't go so far as to call a dog filthy but they're definitely dirty. But, a dog's got personality. Personality goes a long way.
Vincent: Ah, so by that rationale, if a pig had a better personality, he would cease to be a filthy animal. Is that true?
Jules: Well we'd have to be talkin' about one charmin' motherfuckin' pig. I mean he'd have to be ten times more charmin' than that Arnold on Green Acres, you know what I'm sayin'?

urgeok 01-17-2005 10:23 AM

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Originally posted by Vodstok
I get labeled an evil person for this all the time, but i think ol Qt is overrated. Granted, Pulp Fiction was a eork of genius, and i really Like True Romance, but most of his stuff is just over the top to me, to the point that i dont find it enjoyable.

I knwo a lot of people place a great deal of value on the dialogue in his movies, and i think that is why i am at odds with everyone else so much. i think dialogue should do it's best to push the plot foward, with no frame or word wasted. Qt does what a lot of indie film makers do:

Tons of dialogue that is completely extraneous to the plot. Did the "Like a virgin" conversation have any bearing on the rest of the movie in resevoir dogs? if it did, i missed that part.

i do appreciate that his love of pulp culture and use of it in his movies has ironically placed him in the same position of the people he admires, but that just means im giving credit where it is due. im sntill not much of a fan.

I am all about the dialogue .. dialogue is the fastest way to build a character .. the more interesting the character, the more I care about them and that is my emotional buy in. Without it all you have is a dime a dozen action film.

Tarantino has a brilliant ear and knows how to duplicate the feel of dimestore novel cheezy dialogue and stand it on its ear.

My problem with Pulp fiction is that he did it too much too soon after Reseviour Dogs.
Thats what made Dogs brilliant ... the breakfast table meeting with gangsters discussing the credibility of Madonna ...

He used that same hook (gansters talking way above themselves)
with Pulp Fiction and it turned me off (the Mcdonalds in Paris conversation) - it seemed like he just wanted to repeat the formula. That bothered me plus I didnt like the choices in the actors at that time (Bruce Willis and the french girl) .
I got the feeling that he was aiming too high, too slick in that film.

He got back to basics with the solid JAckie Brown, then went completely balls out with the Kill Bills.
If anything, I think he's still underrated ... he's a very entheusiastic genius.
From what I've seen of him in interviews etc ... he'd drive me fucking nuts in person, but he's a brilliant craftsman with great vision

Vodstok 01-17-2005 11:00 AM

Good points, guys. But i still dont like him. I RESPECT his work, but i dont care for most of it.

But then again, the only Japanese horro rmovie i like so far is Audition, and i dont like Italian horror. Thought Suspiria was a waste of time.

I dare to be different. i am different and it annoys people, as opposed to being different JUST to annoy people.

ShankS 01-17-2005 11:45 AM

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Originally posted by newb
I think his use of dialogue is what makes his movies stand out. Such as this now classic bit of conversation.

Vincent: Want some bacon?
Jules: No man, I don't eat pork.
Vincent: Are you Jewish?
Jules: Nah, I ain't Jewish, I just don't dig on swine, that's all.
Vincent: Why not?
Jules: Pigs are filthy animals. I don't eat filthy animals.
Vincent: Bacon tastes gooood. Pork chops taste gooood.
Jules: Hey, sewer rat may taste like pumpkin pie, but I'd never know 'cause I wouldn't eat the filthy motherfucker. Pigs sleep and root in shit. That's a filthy animal. I ain't eat nothin' that ain't got enough sense enough to disregard its own faeces.
Vincent: How about a dog? Dogs eats its own feces.
Jules: I don't eat dog either.
Vincent: Yeah, but do you consider a dog to be a filthy animal?
Jules: I wouldn't go so far as to call a dog filthy but they're definitely dirty. But, a dog's got personality. Personality goes a long way.
Vincent: Ah, so by that rationale, if a pig had a better personality, he would cease to be a filthy animal. Is that true?
Jules: Well we'd have to be talkin' about one charmin' motherfuckin' pig. I mean he'd have to be ten times more charmin' than that Arnold on Green Acres, you know what I'm sayin'?


that was an awesome convo... one day I'm gona get round to ripping the entire film on audio cd just for that sort of dialogue, just so I can listen to it in the car, on long journeys.

EXTR3MIST 01-17-2005 02:20 PM

You know what's on my mind right now?

It ain't the coffee in my kitchen.

It's the dead nigger. In my garage.

last bad move 01-17-2005 04:12 PM

its the one that says bad mother fucker


but my fav work by him has to be res dogs and True Romance

ShankS 01-17-2005 04:17 PM

;)

The STE 01-17-2005 04:24 PM

I haven't seen Jackie Brown, but everything else he's written/directed (and one movie he only wrote) made my top 100 list

EXTR3MIST 01-17-2005 04:24 PM

Hmmm.

Suddenly my Bad Mother Fucker don't seem so cool.

Damn Viz.

Tat2 01-17-2005 06:23 PM

My favorite would have to be From Dusk till Dawn. I hate to admit it, but I have yet to see Kill Bill Vol 1 or 2. I went to buy it Friday and it was out. I'll try again another time.


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