so when did the tradition of gift giving originally start? i don't feel like looking up the information :P regardless, of course over the years it's going to become commercialized. you start out with small presents, then over say a few centuries you get to where we are today

/shrug i'd rather it be a commercialized holiday than a religious based one

and everyone already has a big feast on xmas.. you just have presents on the side.

i'mma get my cake and it eat too damnit!! :cool:

i thought this year i would make small unidentifiable animals out of pinecones and pipecleaners.

i might even get some of those little eyes to glue on them.

if people dont like them they can shove them up their asses .. sharp side first.

Merry xmas.

i like your style :cool:

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I like buying gifts for people and I love christmas. I honestly don't care about getting presents.

Christmas is great because

a) big relief, no ore christmas shopping
b) Everyone is happy. It's not like a good mood, it's a really great mood. Probably because you feel good about gifts you gave people/happy about gifts you recieved and the general setting. The christmas tree all lit up, excited children, the family not fighting and truly loving just being together.

There are always fights in my family, thankgiving is not always an exception but christmas is.

Of course it's commercialized, what isn't? Maybe I just haven't had a chance to develop a cynicism for christmas yet.

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you're young, give it time :)

it'll simmer in you like a crockpot full of chili.

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Or a steaming cow patty on a hot summer day...


Trust me, Angela....It fizzles....

I otherwise would agree with you. However, I asked the question to my Christian friend, who -- by the way -- is hardcore! Like, he doesn't even watch R rated movies or swear, etc.

The first thing he said to me was "presents." I was like, "SEE! Even you friggin' guys have been jaded by the marketing of Christmas."

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Or a bubbling cauldron of newt eyes and salt water taffy.

Oh, and just a quick note to add.

I don't have a problem with Christmas and all the traditions that go along with it. I was just speaking on the topic of over-commercialization. I mean, you personally can take it to any level you wish.

I kind of agree with rotting eye in the fact that if it's gonna be such a damn whore of a holiday...than make it strictly commercial. Leave the religious aspect out of it. Not that I care, but if Jesus saw the selfish, shallow way we celebrate his b-day...he would shit a holy brick!

thats what they use to build churches.