Forum is definitely creeping along with Halloween over, V gone, and Widener coming to and fro and working 'round the clock. V: he said goodbye without ever saying why...

Yes, he did: http://www.horror.com/forum/showthread.php?t=33710

I guess I'll put this under Random Thoughts because I randomly started thinking about painting a couple weeks ago. I've only really ever painted in Acrylics and Watercolors and have always wanted to paint with Oils.

Anyway, I haven't painted anything in probably 3 or 4 years and even before that it was pretty sporadic. It's just something I like to do but never seem to have the time for. I'm still learning techniques on how to work with oils but here are my first two paintings.

This first one I did about 3 weeks ago. I apologize for the blurriness on the left side. It's tough to get my camera phone to focus on the whole picture, but you can get the idea.

http://i777.photobucket.com/albums/y...ps02ab7f9f.jpg

I did this one yesterday. I've never tried painting waves before in my life and thought it would be something cool to try as I've always liked Seascapes but have never really attempted one until now.

http://i777.photobucket.com/albums/y...ps5daf42bc.jpg

Beautiful!!!!

Thanks :)

I'm still learning. I'm not happy with the way everything comes out, but I'm just working on trying new techniques at this point anyway.

I draw stick figures. I'm impressed with anyone that can do artwork.

Looks like you've been watching some Bob Ross! Quality work, mate. :cool:

Yep, Bob Ross has definitely been an inspiration, along with the guy who taught him Bill Alexander. :)

My only knowledge/ memory of Bob Ross is sitting around my parents house in the mid- late '90's smoking skunk, watching The Joy of Painting, when I should've been in college.... Loved that show, dude was an absolute legend!

wow, those really look good, Bro! Good compositional flow on the first one.

On the second, you do really good rock/mountains. They look real. The waves look very real too. Plus I love aquamarine. The composition is really trippy. I'm not sure what you're doing there. Is that a shore line and beach for the bottom right? With the size and direction of the waves, I'm guessing this is more abstract?

Oils are a certainly different to work with than watercolor and acrylic, eh? I had a real hard time with my one try at oils in high school.

Those are really good RDB

No, I just fu@ked up...lol. Although everything I do seems to have a sense of abstractness. It's not intentional, it just comes out that way. But no I just was having fun making waves and eventually ran into the shore. Part of me thinks there's a big rock "unseen" that the waves are wrapping around out of frame from the picture, but who knows.

Like I said, I'm really just trying to learn techniques so these are just kind of practice paintings. I think the next one I do will have a bunch of mountains in it because that's something I haven't tried yet although similar technique to the rocks in that painting.

Thanks man :)

For some reason I never realized that Il Duce was Fido...

if ghosts are real, why aren't there animal ghosts? are humans the only beings with souls? my dog has a soul, he can sing the blues.

I got thrown out of a class for questioning that in primary school. Pretty much turned into an atheist right then and there.

Dec 3rd, and I'm already sick of Christmas carols

There are actually more reports of animal ghosts then you would think, they just aren't as interesting. You can try to talk to ghostly people but what's a ghost dog going to do?

"If you're in the room with us, sit... lie down... roll over."

Yes, tricky question. How would we know if we came across a ghost dog? ::EEK!:: If we heard ghostly barking, or licks on our face? Can't say I've ever heard of a ghost dog or cat. You'd think we'd heard of it if there was.

I've never come across a ghost (spirit of known dead person), but I think I have spirit beings, none of which matched up well to an animal.

Correct me if I'm reading you wrong, but your post sounds like you're angry, and felt mistreated (and understandably so), right? But I'm not sure how that relates to your conclusion on atheism/theism. I mean, personally, I would never become a theist, atheist, or agnostic, because some human threw me out of class. You know, that is, I don't know that anger is a useful tool in deciding if, what or who "God" is.


What was it exactly that you questioned in class?

Nah not angry at all. I just questioned why we have souls and animals don't... we were both created by god have feelings, interact with other beings etc.

It was then as a kid I began to realize that the whole idea of God is a bit suspect and the bible was being used or interpreted to further people's agendas.

Guess it just sewed the seeds for rational thinking is what I was meaning.

Ah, I got ya. Things people say or what we read most assuredly effect our directions.

The getting thrown out of class for questioning a metaphysical position still surprises me. Curious, when the instructor threw you out of class, what did you actually say (or do)?

In my head, just imagining,

Instructor: "Humans have souls, and animals do not."
Elvis: "Teacher? Isn't it possible animals have souls?"
Instructor: "Elvis! Report to the principals office!"

That scenario would really shock me. Did it go down like that? Or were there more appreciable reasons?

lolz!

Lately one night, after having the dinner with the family when I was going back to my apartment upstairs, I just don't know why but I had this wonderfully creepy feeling that there's a big, pitch-black dog following me on the stairs! ::EEK!::

The dude basically had no answers and got angry that I would dare question what was said in the bible.

Holy shit, Elvis and Murderdoll. It's good to see you round here.

That's weird though because the whole soul into animals thing is discussed pretty in-depth in the bible.

I'm not sure how I feel about the concept of the "Soul." I like the concept, but the cynic in me says that we're all just flesh and blood and nothing. That consciousness comes from that lumpy grey matter at the top of my head.

That being said, if humans have souls then I believe that animals have souls. My cats sing the blues with MD's dog.

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But I was dropping in on this thread to articulate a more base and immediate matter - Just found out that at work I'm getting moved from one Team and my current Manager to another Team and a new Manager. Yes, I realize that reorgs happen all the time, but they literally made the reverse move about six months ago. Six months ago I was reporting to D and then they moved me under A. Just today A told me that I'll be moved back under D again.

Honestly, I like working for both of these people, so the shift doesn't bother me per se - I'm just worried that the reason why I'm getting moved around is that my department doesn't know what to do with me, which is concerning.

I was literally updating my resume to apply for another job inside the company when A told me I'll be moving back under D again. Couldn't decide if I wanted to go through with the application because I didn't want to offend D (plus I'm hoping that the move will offer more opportunities) - But still.

*sigh*

:shocked:

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Just needed to get that out. Feel free to ignore.

On the plus side, I've lost enough weight where I can fit into a size jeans that I haven't been able to fit into for 4 years or so! ::cool::

I prefer to look at it as you're so talented they're not quite sure where to place you! ::cool::

Now that you're being moved back to your old position/team, are you also changing shifts? For most people changing shifts is a huge deal.

If you don't know why you are being moved back to that team, and it's been about 6 months, I'd assume it's for staffing needs. I'd certainly not assume it has something negative to do with you. On the contrary, it probably has to do with how proven useful you were to the prior team.

Still, you are certainly in your right to ask your new team manager why you were moved back. The managers surely assume you are going to ask. Might as well ask, as you're curious, and I'd say important info as to your current status in the company.

Gocha. I don't know how old you are, but I'm sure you already know the old proverb "it's not what you say, but how you say it" - which of course means instructors, and most anyone, is open to questions and other thoughts if it's addressed respectfully -- it matters what words are used and how they are said. Most unreasonable/insane instructors are removed in short time, but sometimes you're the person who witnesses those people before they are found and removed.
Indeed it does. Interestingly enough, many books of the Bible read animals do have souls... references to numerous to list them all. Really, with the Bible, and any book, it's all about the context as to what the word means, and what's being said. Plucking "verses" out of any book are often misleading. There are multiple meanings to soul in these references.

Genesis and other books read both animals and humankind have souls, referring simply to "having life". In addition, Genesis makes it clear God made humankind was special and different than animals... Gen 1:26-27: "God said, 'Let us make mankind in our image, in our likeness, so that they may rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky, over the livestock and all the wild animals, and over all the creatures that move along the ground.' So God created man in his own image, in the image of God he created him; male and female he created them."

Of course what MurderDoll was referring to is whether or not animals have a soul that exists apart of the body, or after the body dies. As a whole, the books of the Bible do not indicate animals have "that type of soul". Ecclesiastes (the first existential book, I like to say. truly a great book) 3:21 does read, "Who knoweth the spirit of man that goeth upward, and the spirit of the beast that goeth downward to the earth?". But again, it's about that sentence's context (which is often poetic, and not necessarily literal), in that book, and then the Bible as a whole.

The books of the Bible do not specify there will not be an afterlife, eternal life, heavenly or spiritual life for animals. In Revelation's description of a New Earth, it doesn't reference animals, but it's certainly possible. Bible reads God determines our afterlife. If an individual desired an animal in that "new reality", I'd suggest it's certainly possible any animal could be restored.

The books of the Bible do reference humans having a body, soul and spirit (though some will interpret some scripture that God bestows a spirit only to some humans through Jeshua Messiah) . The difference between them is a whole other subject. But the Bible is clear in referencing that God offers humans eternal life.

I found this, I find it a well written and accurate synopsis answering the question Do Animals Have Souls? according to the Bible http://www.apologeticspress.org/apco...11&article=582

Well that's a depressing thought.

Hope everything works out with you with your job Chrono

delete post. accidentally posted in wrong thread.

Well heck, as long as I'm in the random thoughts thread... why can't we delete our own posts? It's "my post" so to speak. If an adult decides they should delete their own post, why are we preventing it? If a problem arises from someone deleting their own post, then there would actually be a reason. If there hasn't been a problem, then why assume resposible adults can't act responsibly? No heat on that, by the way.

I play a lot of sports.
I do pretty well because I have excellent reflexes, balance, and hand eye coordination.

So imagine my amazement - I've wiped out on the ice twice in 2 days. (almost a third)

I'm walking to the car 2 days ago and slip on a patch of ice - but catch myself by smashing my wrist into the brick corner of the garage. I don't go down but I take all the skin off my wrist (through my jacket)

Not to leave it there - I decide that it's finally time to try to remove the 2 huge branches that broke off the big tree out front (in the ice storm) that fell across the sidewalk. They were right on top of each other.

So I get underneath one and start pushing it straight up so I can fling it onto the lawn. I get it up over my head when some branches hook themselves onto the back of my coat and shirt so when I do that big push/throw - the huge branch springs right back down on me - and flattens me in a full body face plant between the 2 branches, covering my pants and coat with filth - and removing all the skin off my left knee - like a 5 year old. (I find out later that the branches scratched up my chest and back as well)

Realizing how ridiculous I looked and still unable to free the back of my coat and shirt from the branches, even I find it too funny to be embarrassed. I'm hoping no one saw - but if they did they must have killed themselves laughing.

So I finally freed myself and continued to throw the branches off of the sidewalk onto my yard.

Wrist and knees sore - I figured I was due .. I haven't slipped on ice in about 25 years.

Last night i'm taking the kid out for sushi and I wiped out in my own doorway - landing flat on my ass - smashing my elbow on the way down. I didn't drop the CDs I was carrying and my kid was worried instead of laughing.

So I feel like I've been playing rugby.

Winter can kiss my ass.

I would love to have seen video of you with branches. I'm sorry you were hurt, but glad it wasn't serious.

agree...winter sucks

2 years ago I was coming out my back door...like slow motion, I remember thinking..."why are both my feet at eye level" before smashing down on my stairs right in the middle of my back....then rolling on the ground trying to catch my breath whilst looking for my hat, which for some reason flew off my head.

i'm trying to convince myself that this isn't an old guy thing ... you're not helping :)

I had a spill on some ice a few years back and have treaded carefully ever since. My docs have got non slip soles so I should be safe for the future ::big grin::

They're forecasting "snowmageddon" here. Up to 8". I'm hoping they're wrong.