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PR3SSUR3 05-05-2007 06:54 PM

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Its so funny that most Pro Lifers are also war suporters. So don't kill unborn babies but kill enemy combatants and civilians, which many are childern, but not our christian babies please don't kill our christian babies. Jesus must be proud.
Haven't researched your claims, but very interesting at the moment.

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Well, I don't know why people don't want children. I understand if they're under 21 or something but I can't wait til I have kids. But i suppose like I said earlier, it depnds on the circumstances.
So you're saying it's cool to have children over 21?

If I was a woman, that would hurt my fanny and no mistake.

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Despare 05-05-2007 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by stubbornforgey (Post 598797)
The arguement about men vs woman is probably one of the lamest i have ever come across..
what the hell has this to do with this topic..?
It all has to do with the woman and her choices.

Let me make sure I’m getting this right. The man is supposed to be equally responsible for the child and help bear the personal and financial burdens BUT doesn’t have a right to help decide if his child is born or not?

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Originally Posted by chaibill (Post 598956)
Its so funny that most Pro Lifers are also war suporters. So don't kill unborn babies but kill enemy combatants and civilians, which many are childern, but not our christian babies please don't kill our christian babies. Jesus must be proud.

And all Mexicans are landscapers, all blacks steal, all Jews are cheap, all the Irish are drunks...

stubbornforgey 05-05-2007 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Despare (Post 599002)
Let me make sure I’m getting this right. The man is supposed to be equally responsible for the child and help bear the personal and financial burdens BUT doesn’t have a right to help decide if his child is born or not?



And all Mexicans are landscapers, all blacks steal, all Jews are cheap, all the Irish are drunks...

I never stated any of what you just mentioned
Men have as much rights as the woman when it comes to deciding such factors.
However..at the end of the day..it is the womans final decision...

ferretchucker 05-06-2007 04:08 AM

well, that's the thing. I don't think the womans final desision is what makes either one happen, i think the woman just has more power to choose than the man considering she's harbouringf the baby. The womans choices and descisions are just as equal in what matters to the mans.

stubbornforgey 05-06-2007 04:46 AM

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Originally Posted by chaibill (Post 598956)
Its so funny that most Pro Lifers are also war suporters. So don't kill unborn babies but kill enemy combatants and civilians, which many are childern, but not our christian babies please don't kill our christian babies. Jesus must be proud.

And abortion is here to stay because with out it there would be an undergound abortion movment.

the solution is to stop unwanted pregnancy. By using condoms and teaching the hip hop crowd that condoms are useful and they won't be less of a man if they use them.


Stereo typing..
I have you know that if you look at the statistics..many abortions are done by white middle to upper class females who

1: decided that being pregnant and having a child would absolutely ruin thier careers as to thier bodies.

2:forced on by thier parents as it is shameful

3:forced on by thier partners as this is not what this relationship is all about..having children.

4:unaffordale at the time.

5:the fetus has some kind of sickness

the list goes on..but i guarantee you one thing..many hip hoppers are very pro life ...
having been in a debate about this topic before

chaibill 05-06-2007 03:15 PM

you think poor people can afford abortions

not all hip hop people are black i would of wrote black if i was going to be racist. i am saying that being macho is too strong in that part of our culture and condoms are not seen as macho in the hip hop area of our culture

that is why i wrote most. Not all prolifers are war suporters. But if you asked a church full of people if they felt the war we are in right now is important they would say yes and then if you asked the same people if they feel abortion is right they would say "Oh god no."

paws the great 05-06-2007 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by chaibill (Post 598956)
Its so funny that most Pro Lifers are also war suporters. So don't kill unborn babies but kill enemy combatants and civilians, which many are childern, but not our christian babies please don't kill our christian babies.
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It's so funny..... SOME people that are pro-choice are against capital punishment!




So kill unborn babies ,but let people like Ted Bundy live.

stubbornforgey 05-06-2007 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by chaibill (Post 599313)
you think poor people can afford abortions

not all hip hop people are black i would of wrote black if i was going to be racist. i am saying that being macho is too strong in that part of our culture and condoms are not seen as macho in the hip hop area of our culture

that is why i wrote most. Not all prolifers are war suporters. But if you asked a church full of people if they felt the war we are in right now is important they would say yes and then if you asked the same people if they feel abortion is right they would say "Oh god no."


where do you see the word racist in my comment??
I said stereo typing..
And no poor people cannot afford this operation..this is why there are many back street abortions happening..leading to much death.
Hip hoppers are probably your most anti-abortion group out there..
and em serious..i had such a debate on this topic with a said group and it was heated..

I don't want to get into a debate about this topic ..
I think its a good one and the opinions so far have been quite interesting to read.

chaibill 05-06-2007 04:52 PM

no that was directed to despare not you

yeah most hip hopers are against any birth control that is true

Despare 05-06-2007 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by chaibill (Post 599331)
no that was directed to despare not you

I know it wasn't, I just want to know where you did your research.


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