I have to see it because i was a bit obsessive with the transformers when i was a kid, but i see eye to eye with you on the Michael bay, souless connection. his movies are pretty, vapid, empty, and usually pointless, but have huge special effects and cast budgets. Plus, they tend to say a lot of really important sounding things rapid fire, and with conviction, so that you dont pay attention long enough to realize there is 0 substance to it.

I hate Michael Bay.

His antithesis is David Fincher. both are ex-music video directors who use lots of special effects and big name actors, but somehow Fincher's movies have depth and interesting characters.

Yes, i liked Alien 3 :p

I don't care for Bay much myself, but Speilburg is producing it, so theres a possiblity of it being decient.

But like I've said several times, people are going to go watch this movie to finally see Prime and Megatron duke it out in live action.

But it won't be as great b/c Megatron looks nothing like he did in the cartoon.

I just heard from a buddy of mine that this Thursday Dec.21 there is going to be a limited sneak peak at the new Transformers trailer that is supposed to be shown with "Night at the Museum." This trailer will be on-line all day that day and then it will be pulled till after its being shown in theaters.

This is only a rumor and I think it is going to be on the offical web site.

Plus for anyone who wants to see final pictures of some of the transformers including Prime there are offical movie wallpapers at:

http://www.tformers.com/transformers_movie.php

First offical still picture from the movie:

http://movies.yahoo.com/movie/180871...hoto/970420325

New Trailer is up!

http://uk.promotions.yahoo.com/transformers/

It doesn't feel like the Transformers I grew-up with, the robots look like real robots not the robots in the show. What I mean is they remind me of the Zords in the Power Rangers movie and the inscet monsters in that movie. I think the only part of the trailer that felt like Transformers to me was the brief shoot of Prime transforming. I realize that Bay feels some need to moderize the film but seriously who is going to be the target audience, the people who grew-up with the G1 transformers. Plus a few kids who watch the new Anime crap thats on TV. But its supposed to be a G1 movie but I'm not feeling G1, or Transformers of any kind. :(

I have an intense Geek need to see this....

The writers made a good point in one of the on-line Q&A's on the offical web site. The question was in regard to Bumble Bee being a Camero instead of a Beetle. The writers responded with basiclly its not the suit that makes the man but the man himself (not a direct quote). So just because the look of a character is different doesn't mean that the character himself is different. The writers said that they had the original media in their heads when writing this movie. So with that said, I guess that its alright that they changed the look of the decepticons b/c if the character himself is there that I guess thats all that really matters.

http://www.transformersmovie.com/main.html

I saw the trailer last night.

I thought it sounded stupid when I first heard about it.

It looks just about as stupid as I thought it would.



I just don't get it...

Ooooh, a rediculously giant motorcycle is destroying buildings!

I'm with you, Alky. Seems like a complete disconnect with anything organic. Hate the premise, hated the cartoon and am intensly confused by the fans of this one.

Its a indivual interest. Its like TMNT, I don't see the appeal of mutant tutrules but I don't critize those that like it.

Personally I enjoy Transformers for a few reasons:
1) Sci-Fi, I'm a Sci-Fi fan by trade.
2) Grew-up with the TV show, and had lots of toys. I mean the toy alone was great, you got to play with a car and an action figure in one toy.
3) I like cars, I enjoy watching cars do crazy things, I think its good action.
4) The concept is preety orginal, robots that can change into vechiles and hide in normal everyday environment.

But again its a personal interest and I think that this movie is going to great visually b/c as I've said numerous times, people really just want to see Prime vs. Megartron in live action on the big screen. Simple.

We're not trying to put you down, trust me. I like some things myself that others find weird.

I think what Rod and I are saying is that it just doesn't make sense to us.
To us (and I use that term because I think Rod and I are on the same wavelength on this, but I may stand corrected) there are so many other things much more menacing than an enormous race car that can turn into a helicopter.

I just don't get what the movie is trying to be. It's got horror tone, dramatic settings, and the source is a model truck on steroids.